Will Hoppes Solvent Hurt Sig Frame?

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  1. StarShip2100

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    Can Hoppes solvent harm a Sig frame? Make it wrinkle or other? I dont think it should, want to check.

    Thanks
     
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    ive let mine soak in the stuff for days without any problem.
     

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    It was purchased as 'like new' - is it possible it was painted?
     
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    Sounds like you've already tried it. Can you post pictures of this wrinkled finish?
     
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    Is it a CPO from about two years ago?
     
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    OK, I will try and get some pics and post -

    was the CPO model a couple of years ago painted?
     
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    The was an epidemic of poorly finished CPOs a while back. Simple gun cleaning wipedowns took the "paint" off. Some of us thought SIG simply covered up bare spots using a Sharpie.

    Fortunately, I never had issues with my stainless steel SIGs...


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    this is the original pics

     
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    Have you shot this gun yet? It would be interesting to see the frame rails after shooting.

    Also, I would post those pics over on Sig Forum for feedback.

    There is a thread discussing frame wear, and there are several finishers who do extensive finish work on SIGs who will be able to address your concern.

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    a) great stainless pics!

    b) I can not figure out how to post pics from my drive to Sigforum... any idea how to?

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    Many of us use Photobucket's internet servers. Just upload your pics to Photobuvcket, and copy the HTML onto any site.

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    Now your just teasing people
     
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    Those are heirlooms.

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    From an old Swiss company :)

    SIG SAUER®

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    OK, so what would ya'll advise him to do? The last communications:

    YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN ANY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION TO HAVE ANYTHING INSPECTED. I WILL NOT PAY ANYONE ANY FEES ASSOCITED WITH YOUR "TESTING" PERIOD. I OFFERED YOU A PARTIAL REFUND ($25) AND THE OFFER STILL STANDS. I HAVE INSTRUCTED MY EMPLOYEES THAT THE GUN IS REGISTERED TO YOU AND TO DENY ANY SHIPMENTS FROM YOU OR YOUR GUN DEALER.

    I MADE 43.00 OF THE GUN AFTER GUNBROKER FEES. I WILL GIVE YOU THE $43.00 PROFIT BACK, JUST SO YOU GO AWAY AND QUITE CALLING ME AND SENDING ME 20 EMAILS IN A ROW. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT STATES RIGHT IN THE SIG MANUAL THAT SOLVENTS CAN DAMAGE THE FINISH ON THE SIGS. AGAIN THIS WAS NOT A CPO GUN.

    SCOTT
    AND THE SECOND (It came in a red box, btw)
    YOU ARE NOT AUTHORIZED IN ANY SHAPE FORM OR FASHION TO HAVE ANYTHING INSPECTED. I WILL NOT PAY ANYONE ANY FEES ASSOCITED WITH YOUR "TESTING" PERIOD. I OFFERED YOU A PARTIAL REFUND AND THE OFFER STILL STANDS. I HAVE INSTRUCTED MY EMPLOYEES THAT THE GUN IS REGISTERED TO YOU AND TO DENY ANY SHIPMENTS FROM YOU OR YOUR GUN DEALER.

    I MADE 43.00 OF THE GUN AFTER GUNBROKER FEES. I WILL GIVE YOU THE $43.00 PROFIT BACK, JUST SO YOU GO AWAY AND QUITE CALLING ME AND SENDING ME 20 EMAILS IN A ROW. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT STATES RIGHT IN THE SIG MANUAL THAT SOLVENTS CAN DAMAGE THE FINISH ON THE SIGS. AGAIN THIS WAS NOT A CPO GUN.

    SCOTT
    OK< so now a second question comes up - he is a reputable dealer - should he know that red box means CPO? Any ideas on what can be done with this situation?
     
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    If I'm interpreting all of the above correctly... in your post #3:

    "It was purchased as 'like new' - is it possible it was painted?"

    "Like new" connotes that it is not new, and if it came in a red box, that indicates that it is a Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) SIG.

    In the past, SIG would not honor finish issues with CPOs. You might try calling Exeter and discussing the matter with them.
     
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    I realize it was not new, but it was supposed to be factory finished, and he claims it was not a CPO but was in a red box. Even harder, I can not get anyone to tell me what CPO finish problems really where - lots of speculation and guesses, but no real answers.