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WI- Activist's civil rights complaint over gun arrests thrown out

Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by TBO, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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  2. Bill Lumberg

    Bill Lumberg BTF Inventor

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    Look for attention. Get attention. Don't complain. But it should be noted that, while having some parallels with OC "activists" in general, this guy was hardly representative of permitees as a whole.
     

  3. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    isn't this the same guy that after he shot two guys decided to exercise his fifth amendment rights and refused to give a statement to the police or take the stand to testify in his own defense? and ended up getting sentenced to 20 years in prison.
     
  4. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, but I haven't read whether he refused to take the stand or was advised not to.
     
  5. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Either way it is hard to claim self defense and have a jury believe you when you refuse to tell your side of the story.
     
  6. RussP

    RussP Super Moderator Moderator

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    Yep, very true.
     
  7. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Don't talk to the police, don't talk to the jury, don't talk to the prison guard. :rofl:
     
  8. Patchman

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    For most defendants on trial claiming a "self defense" defense, actually going on the witness stand and testifying can be a dangerous thing. Not only because their story may fall apart, but their presence on the witness stand may give jurors negative impressions of one kind or another.

    From what I remember of Gonzalez and the incident, I wouldn't let him on the stand.