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Just this evening, looking at an obscure thread elsewhere, I came across a reference to the latest CDC graph of national weekly deaths for the last week in August that included only those deaths from three causes, mixed together in one total number, the number of deaths from Covid 19, influenza, and pneumonia. This last week's death number is shocking to me, because I would think it would be the most significant news in the last 6 months; that weekly death number is almost exactly what it was just before the pandemic started and smack dab on the baseline for a "normal" non-pandemic week. Why in the world isn't this the headline news on every news show and newspaper? If this holds, the pandemic is, at least for now, if not permanently, actually over and done! I am stunned.

See it for yourself on the CDC website:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/07032020/nchs-mortality-report.html
 

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The numbers are only useful if they can induce panic and worry. Why else would they be harping on "cases" and not simply deaths, as it should be?
OF COURSE THERE ARE MORE CASES! THERE IS MORE TESTING BEING CONDUCTED!
 

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Because facts DO NOT MATTER when you have an agenda to push.
It was NEVER about COVID.. It was NEVER about masks.. It was just a grab for control, or power, or to subvert the AWESOME economy that Trump was responsible for up to that point...
Not to mention the great experiment to see what it would take to get the masses to willingly do just about anything.
 

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This is about in person voting and killing the economy. Has been from the start.

It also just so happens just so happens to have been one of the biggest transfers of wealth for big businesses. Small businesses took it on the chin, hard.
 

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Just this evening, looking at an obscure thread elsewhere, I came across a reference to the latest CDC graph of national weekly deaths for the last week in August that included only those deaths from three causes, mixed together in one total number, the number of deaths from Covid 19, influenza, and pneumonia. This last week's death number is shocking to me, because I would think it would be the most significant news in the last 6 months; that weekly death number is almost exactly what it was just before the pandemic started and smack dab on the baseline for a "normal" non-pandemic week. Why in the world isn't this the headline news on every news show and newspaper? If this holds, the pandemic is, at least for now, if not permanently, actually over and done! I am stunned.

See it for yourself on the CDC website:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/07032020/nchs-mortality-report.html
That data is through the last week in June not August.
 

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Not to be a buzz kill but everyone realizes it takes weeks, even months, for the numbers for any given week to be finalized. If you look at last weeks numbers today on the CDC website and then check it again in a month, they won't even be close.
 

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Then there's this from, of all the places, the New York Times, indicating that for the most common current testing procedures, the false positive results could be as high as 90%. Yes, 90%! Apparently, it is over-sensitive, and reads things like mere particles of the virus, or very low concentrations of it that are short of what is necessary to become ill or contagious, so that the current numbers from testing are most likely extremely misleading.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

I am not saying that those of us who are old and have comorbidities should throw away masks, no longer wash our hands and start kissing our neighbors on the mouth when greeting them. That wpould be stupid and dangerous. But, if you are young to early middle age, healthy in general and without any comorbidities, it looks like this thing is pretty much over for you, and a vaccine, for the rest of us who are willing to take it, should just about completely end this horrible chapter of mendacious tyranny and real medical peril that we have suffered at the hands of a witches brew of incompetent and mendacious government medical bureaucrats and power grasping Leftwing politicians.
 

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You're stunned ?? LOL

It's all about control and moving us closer to socialism.

Sleepy Joe even said publicly "I'll shut it all down again !"
Government control over everything is the goal
Believe me, I am not unaware of the political underpinnings of most of the Dem government reaction to the virus and pandemic. But, because the virus is real, and it really killed people, call me crazy, but I still thought that this would make news in a big way, even though it might put a slight damper on a Democrat narrative. After all, if this great news was recognized by the MSM, they'd still carry on with the same narrative, only limit it to the past tense: "Trump did nothing, and people died." The lie would remain, only the tense would change.
 

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That data is through the last week in June not August.
True, my mistake, because I first read the data in a different graph that had been updated, I assumed the graph I first posted referred to the same time period. HERE'S THE LATEST DATA WITH THE EXACT SAME RESULTS. YOUR CORRECTION IS TRUE BUT CHANGES NOTHING. CURRENT RESULTS ARE THE SAME FOR THE COVID DEATHS AS THOSE THAT I STATED IN MY OP:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm
 

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Believe me, I am not unaware of the political underpinnings of most of the Dem government reaction to the virus and pandemic. But, because the virus is real, and it really killed people, call me crazy, but I still thought that this would make news in a big way, even though it might put a slight damper on a Democrat narrative. After all, if this great news was recognized by the MSM, they'd still carry on with the same narrative, only limit it to the past tense: "Trump did nothing, and people died." The lie would remain, only the tense would change.
Not surewhat your point is. The narrative is that Trump did nothing when in fact he did did more than has ever been done. Truth means nothing to those intent on promoting Orange Man Bad. Deaths of 10's or even 100's of thousands of Americans because of a lie mean nothing
 

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The numbers are only useful if they can induce panic and worry. Why else would they be harping on "cases" and not simply deaths, as it should be?
OF COURSE THERE ARE MORE CASES! THERE IS MORE TESTING BEING CONDUCTED!
But, but, but, the “experts” tell us that is wrong, those number don’t mean squat, just their numbers are the only one’s to trust. :upeyes: I just love when people piss on my foot and tell me it’s raining. :steamed::steamed::steamed::steamed:
 

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The economy was never awesome.

Repo rates exploding to 7% in Q3 2019 and the Fed printing tons of money to fill the gap is proof of this. The corona scam is cover for the coming economic collapse.

None of this is trumps fault of course.
Well, my 401K was rocking before this scamdemic. Not so much in April. Down about $62K.
 
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