http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/...e-suspects-had-felony-convictions-ar-1510369/ Tyler, a customer at the BP station, was killed about 8:15 p.m. Friday, Nov. 25, inside the store. According to court papers, Smith and Hamiel arrived at the BP together on a single scooter and followed Tyler into the store. Tyler, 48, had a concealed-carry permit, but his handgun was plainly visible that night in his holster, Johnson said. "The suspects walk in and one immediately reached for Mr. Tyler's gun," Johnson said. Tyler did not draw his weapon. According to court papers, Smith took Tyler's gun during a struggle and shot Tyler in the chest after the victim chased Smith inside the store. Authorities said they could not confirm that Tyler was killed with his own gun until they get the results of forensics testing. They also are awaiting test results to show whether the gun used to kill Tyler was the one used to shoot Cosby. Yes to murders and it looks like the CCW carrier's gun was used in both, including the murder of the CCW carrier! And that is the problem with OC. Cops use a duty belt and retention system that is strong enough to stop the snatch of even a drug crazed nutjob. Think about it. Deaf Moderator Note: If you want to start a rude and insulting testosterone spewing contest about open carry, go somewhere else. Do it here and you'll not like the results. If you want to discuss this event in a reasonable manner, you're welcome to stay.