Why cops are throwing in the towel.

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Sgt127, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. collim1

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    The best thing we can all do is put on our class A, shine our boots up and do our jobs.

    I’m not raising my child in a society without police protection.

    We all quit now and our positions will be filled by Antifa members, communist, criminals and predators.

    By all means let that one headlight pass, but I’m not giving up. My family lives here. My child goes to school here. My wife goes to work here. My child needs chemo in a city 100 miles away. I have to be able to get him there.

    We all pull out and guess what guys? There is not a doctor or teacher on the country that is going to show up to work.
     
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    People with the means to do so will move out to the country. We’ll see the unraveling of gentrification and inner city areas will go back to being rough with no oasis..
     
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    TOGETHER WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
     
  5. blueiron

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    The only people I feel sorry for are the elderly poor who cannot financially leave their homes, the incapacitated, and the children.

    Nearly everyone who lives in the inner-city has access to the means to better themselves. This is not 1964 Watts or 1966 Harlem. Scholarships exist now, job training and apprenticeships are widely available, EEO exists, and much more. The problem for many is a lack of motivation to do better for themselves and the ease of blaming others for your issues.

    Parts of rural America aren't any better than the inner-cities. Meth, violence, alcohol, and a lack of proximal access to schools, training, and work are plaguing there as well.
     
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  6. Sgt127

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    I appreciate that sentiment, I really do. And, it means a lot.

    But, people also have to be realistic. I’ve watched people die in a burning car. I dumped a 5 pound dry chem in the drivers compartment and had to back off. The car was a literal fireball. Me, in my polyester uniform would have simply killed myself to go in there.

    I’ve watched cars swept away in raging floodwaters. Me jumping in the river and swimming after it would have only added another death.

    Sometimes, you can’t win. No matter how badly you want to. My God may reward me in the afterlife but, I’m not spending 10 years in prison, financially and personally ruined by trying to do the right thing.

    In the above scenarios, if I had a nomex suit, red line hose and SBCA or a lifeline, life jacket and other swift water gear, I could try.

    The cities hanging these cops out to dry are taking the most important tool the cops have away from them. The ability to do the job and feel they are protected.

    Not with physical gear.
     
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    "It’s not that law enforcement has changed for the worse but everything around it has."
     
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    The problem is he was doing his job. He was arresting him for DUI (my agency would write you up for letting a DWI go) and they got into a fight and tried to subdue the offender. He was just going to chase him until the offender turned the taser on him and he reacted the way he was trained (certainly the way I was trained).

    They are literally firing and/or arresting cops for any use of force that is against a black person that doesn’t involve them pointing a gun at them. It doesn’t matter why they were doing it. They selectively edit the video and release it (as in the Atlanta tasering with the 6 cops) to get the mob to call for charges and they do so.

    You can do everything right within policy, statute, case law, and training and they will throw you to the wolves right now.

    That being said I appreciate that you will still hold the line.
     
  11. CAcop

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    Oakland is ****ed. All the techies are going to bail once OPD goes reactive. There's already plenty of stories of techies getting robbed of their laptops. Each one totally unaware that Oakland has a bad side. I had family there most of my life growing up. We visited them but we didn't go on walks in the neighborhood and we didn't go to coffee shops to chill with 2 grand worth of electronics.
     
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    May was my last month working patrol .... 33 years later and the environment today prevents the expected anxiety from the separation. Only thing I'm sure of is today's America sure ain't the one my Dad knew.
     
  13. Tomcat1977

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    I dont know. I dont remember the numbers. I remember the trigger control and aiming was better then usual. This weekend has been cold as hell with lows in the mid to low %50's and still 38 were shot tho only one killed. In 2017, the same week end, went 14 killed/55 winged.

    So tho sporty it wasn't all that unusual. A June weekend normally produces 40 to 70 shot. So all the the defund the cops movement really is is Political masturbation to keep two things going in the news. #1, Is to keep the young anarchists and leftists engaged so they remember to vote in Nov. and #2 is to screw the cops on their new contract. In a nut shell thats it.

    By all rights there should be 6 or 7 tagged in the morgue from a slow weekend because 1 for 6 is the normal mortality rate for gunshots.
     
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  14. quantico

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    Cities that disband police will need to hire some sort of officer friendly hall monitors.. cities where thirty percent of the police quit or retire will hire other people.. nobody is un replaceable.. the new folks may not have the skills to function during stress.. they may run away from conflict even before the leftie mayors tell them to run and hide. Job openings for 20 thousand black female police recruits will change how cities function.

    When I go to the hardware store I look for a 50 to 65 year old man with hands that have thick skin from using tools and fixing stuff for decades.. if I need a police officer I really hope to find a man 40 to 50 years old that can read people with just a look. These police officers are calm and have seen everything. They have wisdom of who is lying and who is someone to be hooked up and booked. I will miss police officers that will follow their instincts and hearts to do a good job and use their brains instead of a political flow chart to determine their actions.
     
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    I wouldn't go to Oakland from Marin county back in the late 70's. I sure as heck did not go there when I was stationed at Fort Ord in the early 90's.
     
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    "It’s the only job you can do everything right and lose everything.

    It’s the only job where the same citizens you risk your life for hate you for it.

    It’s the only segment left in society where it’s cool to discriminate and judge, just because of the uniform you wear.

    You never get to explain.

    You can never reason with them."


    ..............Strong, Strong words...
     
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    What do they care! The more the merrier. It furthers their cause.
     
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    Criminals don't want cops. Is up to to the law abiding citizens to take matters into the their own hands and stand to the criminals with full force.
     
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    When I was active, I carried a $1,000,000.00 policy. Today I would get as much as possible.

    BLM in Baltimore forced the police to stay out of certain areas recently. That did not last long. They came crawling back, saying they never wanted the police gone.
     
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    Sad state of affairs when the Police are restrained from doing their jobs.
    I can't say I blame any LEO for wanting to quit...(ITS DANGEROUS OUT THERE)