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Who here used an AR-15 or AK-74 for home defense?

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Idontplaynice, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Idontplaynice

    Idontplaynice

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    Title should read "uses" not "used" LOL

    Tell me once and for all - 5.56x45 or 5.45x39 good for home defense?

    Are they better for home defense than 9mm or .45 because of the supposed fragmenting/yawing properties of the round keep them from over-penetrating residential walls?

    This is what I hear, but can anyone confirm?
     
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    Cole125 Silver Member

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    :deadhorse: Man this has been beaten to death here. Rifles have too much over penetration unless you live in a rural area and might have to engage at BG at farther than 50 yards.


    As far as stopping power, yes.


    Also, google is your friend, do some searching.
     

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    Who engages a bad guy in self defense at 50yds?
     
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    From what I read, the 5.56x45mm round fragments upon impact given enough velocity, thereby will less likely overpenetrate than a heavier 9mm or .45ACP round.

    Distances have nothing to do with this, as close-quarter breach teams use M4s and P90s.
     
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    crazymoose Nonentity

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    Over penetration is very unlikely with these.

    5.45X39 60 gr V-MAX™ Steel Case

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    Has your day been that bad?
     
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    gjk5 Pinche Gringo

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    Finally!!!!


    A thread to resolve the pesky AR/AK debate, why hasn't anyone ever thought of this???
     
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    Just use a Barrett 50 cal. That should stop 'em!
     
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    Or a flamethrower
     
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    Or a crowbar.
     
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    All the fear of AR's and AK's and they are never a major factor in shootings.The % is under 5% total I'm betting.
    They are a great recreational firearm.
     
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    inside a house a 5.56 round will penetrate less than a 45 acp. and deliver far more energy to the target along with faster follow up shots.

    As far as whats better an Ak74 or an AR/M4 type rifle I like the M4 just mainly because I train with it a whole lot more. but either will do just fine
     
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    This,......and I will never allow a communist AK into MY house.
     
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    I use an AR as my "in the bedroom" primary HD weapon. Its loaded with Hornady 8126N (75 grain). I also have several 9mm Glocks avaliable throughout the house. If somebody breaks in at night - I am staying in my room behind cover with the rifle. If somebody breaks in during the day - chances are I'll get to a 9mm before I get the AR. Outside of the house, I usually have a Kahr P380 in my pocket and sometimes a G26 on the hip.

    If you only have 1-2 guns, I don't think an AR should be all you have. If you have lots, its a great option to have.
     
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    I have an AR for Home SD, if I can get to it. Ain't worried about over penetration. The 55 grain .223 H.P.s I use are damn right explosive. Kind of like a Roach Hotel, the bullet goes in, but never comes out.
     
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    I use AR. I don't think something like M193 penetrates excessively. I’ll even put it like this: I don’t have faith in M193 penetrating abilities. I do keep couple of mags stocked with M855 type of ammo but if I knew I’m about to have to engage someone in a car I would grab my FAL first.

    Over penetration is a secondary concern anyway. Primary concern is to quickly hit the target(s) where it counts with something substantial. As far as “civilian” firearms go semi-auto carbine firing intermediate cartridge can't be beat in this regard.