White House confirms it tied Ukraine aid to help in pursuing conspiracy theory on DNC hack

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  1. michael_b

    michael_b Elementary, my dear Watson.

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    Many things,

    - impeachment isn’t popular and will hurt the :dog: at the polls

    - For all his BS, McConnell already said it’s dead on arrival

    - If the Dems succeeded, they would face revolt by their sycophants when the sycophants realize impeachment doesn’t mean removal from office

    - possibly, by passing impeachment in the house, they risk opening a can of worms. A trial is held in the Senate and the presidents lawyers could open up the guns on the coup attempt

    - The Dems don’t want to see a million conservatives marching on Washington if they try and remove Trump
     
  2. 686 AR15 G17Fan

    686 AR15 G17Fan

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    I said the same thing from the beginning.

    We're giving you a BILLION dollars and we'd like something in return is bad ?

    Of course, as I type this, I realize that "they" got used to 8 years of spraying billions around the world and not getting anything in return was the norm so this is sedition
     

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    Stalling.

    To hear them talk he is guilty.

    So bring it. Now.
     
  4. OttoLoader

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    That is a made up term. Impeachment inquiry.

    The house Democrats changed all the rules to set up their inquiry.
    Some but not all:
    Use demand letters not subpoenas.
    Hold in secret.
    No Republicans allowed to participate.

    If the Democrats really want to impeach then they need to have the entire house vote. Then follow the process.
     
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  5. rainman33

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    I’m not sure where you’re going with, so please expand on your thoughts.
    My concern being that, while I do not excuse Trump from a quid pro quo, I do not consider this an impeachable offense. And, the fact that no one blinked an eye when Biden literally bragged about it means this is a soft coup by democrat politicians who cannot accept that they lost the election.
     
  6. 686 AR15 G17Fan

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    You are so misinformed...…..

    I heard it from someone
    Someone told me
    Colbert confirmed...
    msmbc said
    cnn said
    undisclosed sources confirm...
    we have to pass it to know what's in it

    "some guy said something" is good enough for me
     
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    TDS infects weak minds. It also makes middle aged black women fat.
     
  8. 686 AR15 G17Fan

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    Forget being allowed to participate, not even allowed to be present.
     
  9. xTerpx

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    I quite reading when I saw "Yahoo." Nothing to see here, folks.
     
  10. 686 AR15 G17Fan

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    What's wrong with the president doing a quid pro quo when giving a foreign nation BILLIONS of dollars ?
     
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    He will have more flexibility after the election.
     
  12. rainman33

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    Nothing.
    By excuse, I simply meant I’m not saying it didn’t happen.
     
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  13. jcm3

    jcm3 G22 4 Me

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    The quid pro quo argument when it comes to international relations (or politics for that matter) is odd to me.

    Quid pro quo in the workplace is not acceptable. I'll fire you if you don't sleep with me. The job is in jeopardy, and one side is getting something and the other side isn't. Or, the other side isn't losing something but are really no better off.

    In international relations, the other country isn't owed anything. They are getting aid, and we don't give it if we don't get something in return. That's the way it works. We give our kids allowance if they mow the lawn, is that quid pro quo?

    So, call me confused.
     
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    A quid pro quo is the essence in any (international) deal, has always been, spelled out or not.

    But at this point in history it doesn't really matter who does a quid pro quo and who does a quo pro quid and who interprets one or the other; with the swamp & media being corrupt as hell, everybody knows there is a double standard in judging this administration, no matter what happens.

    What really matters is that the D be crushed on election day.
     
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  15. michael_b

    michael_b Elementary, my dear Watson.

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    I’m still trying to figure out what is the conspiracy theory. Ukraine is dirty and tied up in the attempted coup of Trump.
     
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    Even if Trump was involved in a quid pro quo, which clearly he wasn’t, TDS sufferers don’t get it.

    We have a mutual investigative treaty with the Ukraine, signed by Clinton, which stipulates that both countries are bound by treaty to assist in criminal investigations involving the other country.

    It’s the law...
     
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    Never Trumpers prefer supositories.
     
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    Next the media will film a guy in a suit and a rubber Trump mask robbing a bank and just make up a “ look what Trump just did” crime for the Democrats.
     
  19. R.B. Riddick

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    The majority of Trump’s Defenders are using the “Biden card” to ignore President Trump’s abusive of power asking Ukraine to “do me a favor and look into the Bidens..”. It is also used to change the narrative. If Tom, Dick, or Harry did it, it is not an excuse or defense for The President.

    Some simply do not care or believe this is not an impeachable offense. When this mess initially occurred, many denied the
    quid pro quo, but now it is not a big deal.
     
  20. Officer's Match

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