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Which would you choose??

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by pdblue, Oct 15, 2012.

  1. pdblue

    pdblue

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    Let's just say you could only use 1 caliber for home defense - the 9mm or 45acp. Let's just say you shoot them equally well out of gun "X", recoil is not a problem with either, and both guns "fit like a glove". In the 9 you would be using 124gr +P Gold Dots and in the 45 you would be using 230gr Gold Dots. The 9 would hold 17+1 rounds and the 45 would hold 10+1 rounds.

    I know this is the age old debate - but which gets your vote for home defense? (Oh btw, brick home, not an apartment, no kids, dogs or cats running around).
     
  2. Warp

    Warp ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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    Doesn't matter.
     

  3. K.Kiser

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    Without splitting theoretical hairs, I agree... Either caliber will stop an intruder with well placed shots.. The only argument I could find is ammo capacity which obviously goes to the 9mm, but 10 rounds for home defence isn't shabby at all..

    If I were lucky enough to get my hands on either firearm in a time of emergency I would feel like very fortunate man...

    Whether or not we can be in a position to access a defense weapon in a emergency can always be compromised, a good friend had his cousing killed a few weeks ago while he was trying for a shotgun behind the door during a home burgulary and was shot in the hand by a single handgun round... I would feel safer with the dog in your avatar than a gun because the dog won't hesitate and will act accordingly.. That dog will also buy you precious time.. Sorry for the tangent..
     
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  4. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    G20 10mm is the best all around pistol you can buy. simply change the barrel for 3 caliber choices So weather you want power or pee wee you got it all with a G20 10mm
     
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    For a few years i have had a Sig 2022 9mm w/nigh sights on my nightstand but the wife bought me an XDM .45 and I bought a G-20 so a few more trouble free rounds out of them and one of them will get night sights and take over. Sure a lot of shots in the mag is a good idea but a lot of bigger shots is "More better".:supergrin:
     
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    9mm.

    Its cheaper than 45acp plus you get nearly twice as many rounds.

    I used to carry a Glock 20 and eventually just got tired of the cost of ammo.
     
  8. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    9mm Parabellum is available worldwide. :cool:
     
  9. fastbolt

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    I'm another one with the opinion of "it doesn't matter".

    I also don't have a dedicated "home defense" gun (whatever that might be to different folks).

    Whatever I've carried that day as a retirement CCW weapon is usually what I'll leave out of the safe overnight.

    Same thing I used to do before retirement and was carrying an issued weapon home. Didn't matter whether it was a 15 or 12rd 9mm, a 12 or 9rd .40 or an 8 or 7 rd .45 ... or even a 6rd revolver (back when I carried an issued revolver).

    Neither capacity nor caliber made much difference to me after enough years having worked in LE and as a firearms instructor.

    After a while I did decide I preferred to have night sights on more of my handguns, though. Kept a decently powerful flashlight at hand, too. (I don't own a weapon-mounted light for any of my handguns.)

    So ... I'd see this as an individual decision based upon the specific individual involved. 9mm or .45 ACP? Sure. Whichever.

    Now that the minor equipment issues have been decided, how about the critical owner/user issues?

    Knowledge of the laws, safe firearm storage (against unauthorized persons/children gaining access), training (initial & recurrent), proper practice, familiarity with the chosen weapon (maintenance, safe handling & manipulation under duress & stress, etc), mindset. Things like that ...
     
  10. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    I'd choose a G17 9mmP mainly because I already have one. :cool:
     
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    collim1 Shower Time!

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    Sig P220 with TLR-1 in .45acp for me.

    I carry a 9mm, but when size is no concern I much prefer .45
     
  12. Clutch Cargo

    Clutch Cargo Amsterdam Haze

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    I owned a 9mm for 2 months. I bought it as a good deal to be used for trading material. I'm a .45 guy and that's the truth.
     
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    Either one is fine. But in the real world most people will shoot one better than the other so that should be the real answer.
     
  14. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    It is time to go bullet shopping - 115gr FMJ-RN in 9mmP.
     
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    for pure home defense, I will take the 11 rounds of 230gr Gold Dots. anything that will help to stop the threat sooner and not shoot back is a big plus here. the extra capacity advantage of the 9mm is not important under my roof.
     
  16. Chuck TX

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    Depends, would people say you have the hands of a Blacksmith or a GirlScout?:rofl:


    Seriously, with bullet technology these days, the difference is arguably negligible, sort of. However, with +P+ 9mm loadings so is recoil. A better deciding factor could be which one in defensive loads feels better to you. Which will get you to the range to shoot?

    I like .45. I reload and I'm a big guy so the cost of shooting a lot and the perceived recoil aren't issues for me. I generally prefer the platforms that .45 comes in vs 9mm. Also, I'm more likely to have an impromptu shoot out with a feral hog, where 9mm is woefully weak sauce.
     
  17. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    There is not much recoil with the WW or Fed 115gr JHP +p+ loading, and it gives me 1400 FPS out of my G17.
     
  18. sstecker

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    14 rounds of 230 grain +p HST's delivered by my G21 woulde be my first choice. 2nd choice would be 16 rounds of 147 grain +p HST's delivered by my G19.
     
  19. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    Your .45 load looks rather mean.
     
  20. SCSU74

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    Between the listed ammo it is literally a push. Our PD issues both those calibres with the rounds you listed. After researching ballistics for quite some time I came to the conclusion there was no reason to keep carrying my 21 on duty. It offered nothing the 17 didn't and held less rounds. The 17 is easier to shoot with my non-dominant hand and I able able to get follow ups on target much faster. A gen 4 17 is very hard to beat. The link below is from speer's website comparing the two rounds you mentioned. If it was 1940 I would definitely say go .45. It's 2012, with gold dots there's no reason to not pick 9mm.

    http://le.atk.com/ammunition/speer/handgun/compare.aspx?compare=53617,53966


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