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Which Golden Saber JHP is better for G19?

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by chukb, Mar 12, 2010.

  1. chukb

    chukb

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    Which Golden Saber is best for my G19? All I've ever used in it so far is WWB but I want to try some hollow points.

    the 124 gr +P or the 147 gr? I guess either one is safe?

    I know the +P is high powder content, right?

    Thanks.
     
  2. James Dean

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    Try the Caliber corner with your question. Its right under The Armory section. Lots of great info there
     
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  3. unit1069

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    Try them all out, then select the one that provides the minimum penetration along with the best shooting characteristics from your G-19.
     
  4. JBP55

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    I have the 147 Bonded as well as the 124+P and they both work well.
     
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    i have about half and half....both will leave a good hole. big picture, they are just about the same. one moves faster and with less weight, the other moves slower, but has more weight.....

    get them in the right spot and they will work
     
  6. jeffreybehr

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    None, IMO. I tested a bunch of .40-cal. PD bullets, and the 165g. Golden Saber failed in that it came apart, as did the lightly constructed 135g. Nosler. A half-dozen bulets did just finely.
    [​IMG]

    I suggest the Hornady XTP as an excellent-performing but somewhat-more-affordable PD bullet, with the Winchester PDX1 and the Speer Gold Dot as the premium choices. I tested the GD in my .45GAP; again, it performed VERY well, and it's now my choice in my EDCC Glock 38.
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  7. glock2740

    glock2740 Gun lover.

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    None. The 124+P Gold Dot :rock::thumbsup:
     
  8. BOGE

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    jeffreybehr, shooting water jugs is NO indicator of performance in flesh and is basically a waste of good defense ammo. :wavey:
     
  9. G26ster

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    No, higher pressures (+p) are created by bullet weight, deeper bullet seating depth, bullet material, bullet shape, stronger crimping, casing volume, etc. Not with more powder.
     
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    Speer Golddots 124gr +p
     
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    I actually was impressed that he did this testing on his own to figure out what he wanted to carry. After all, the body is 70% water...so it might not be THAT bad of a test...
     
  12. CynicX

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    # grain charge weight will most certainly effect your pressures.

    .357 sig

    11.8 gr weight charge = ~1200 vel with 397 energy ft/lbs
    14.0 gr weight charge = ~1408 vel with 553 energy ft/lbs

    I dont know the difference in actual pressure but its obviously much higher with more powder. Also the type obviously matters too...
     
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    I use the Golden Saber Bonded 124 +P in my Glock 19 and works great.......
     
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    Yep, shooting into water may not be a realistic indicator of what will happen, but it is a good "best case" indicator.

    If a bullet doesn't perform well under ideal conditions, I figure it can only get worse in a real life situation. If the jacket separates in a jug of water, probably not much chance of it staying on IRL.
     
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    Plus 1.
     
  16. LT642

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    Remington GS 124 gr.+p, bonded is a fine carry round for the 9mm Glocks, as is the Speer GD. I carry both, the only reason I opted for the Remington is that they are available in fifty round boxes versus Speer which only comes in twenty round boxes.
    I feel fine with either, as 9mm has come along way.
    As discussed, it's more where you put the bullet that counts.
    Just my thoughts, hope this helps.
     
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    Anyone tried out or tested the new Hornady Critical Defense ammo for 9mm yet?
     
  18. jeffreybehr

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    ...ahem...if a bullet comes apart in homogeneous WATER, what do you suppose it will do when it strikes a bone in a badguy's body? I've posted these pics in perhaps-dozens of places; you're the ONLY person to opine that I wasted my time.

    I'll STILL use a bullet that performs well in water v. one that comes apart in water.
     
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    Flawed logic. FWIW you´re a FNG here and should use the search button more. The ol´timers, such as myself, gave up trying to talk sense into the pseudo bullet testers as they basically only want to post so as to feel important. Bullets do not behave in bodies as they do in water.

    P.S. You´ve wasted your time.
     
  20. threefeathers

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    All said my vote is for a 124 grain from several different companies.