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Discussion in 'Hunting, Fishing & Camping' started by sharpshooter, Oct 3, 2004.

  1. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Member Millennium Member

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    I guess my camo works.
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    Sharpshooter,

    FWIW.

    I'm colorblind. You jumped out of the picture at me. The shade of your cammo is much brighter than the sorounding rocks. You would have been harder to spot in the shadows further back on the left.

    Sitting still is much more important that new camo anyways.
     

  3. RJ Schuknecht

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    Your face is a dead give-a-way. The rest of your camo isn`t going to make much difference if your face is so visible.
     
  4. sharpshooter

    sharpshooter Member Millennium Member

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    Of course ANYBODY can hide easier in the shadows no matter what you're wearing. However, you can't always avoid sunlight, and this is what my camo looks like under non-ideal conditions.

    I agree that the face hole in the mask is too large, plus it's outlined with black elastic which makes it stand out even more. I'll have to do a little nip-N-tuck I guess. All I need is a wide thin hole for my eyes and a small hole for using mouth calls.

    I don't know how your particular degree of colorblindness affects your vision, but here's what that same picture looks like in greyscale. It's not an invisibility cloak, but it's a lot harder to tell that there's a human kneeling there.
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  5. noway

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    Hint, wear a netted face mask. That would break up that white area of your face and make it less of a shine.
     
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    Nets obscure my vision too much. It makes a responding coyote a whole lot harder to pick up at 200-300 yards, or a bobcat at 100 yards. Plus they get in the way when using a scope.

    The last coyote I killed came in from 150+ yards in the open prarie and was shot in the front chest/neck at 13 steps as he was charging me full on. I was wearing a camo shirt and pants, a ball cap backwards, and no face mask at all. There was no shade in sight, I was just sitting in front of the largest sage bush I could find on a small hillside.

    When they come hard, they don't care too much about stuff like that. When they come in slowly, it helps to have 100% camo. I wear camo mostly just because I look cool and feel stealthy. I could probably get away with just wearing pants and a plaid flannel shirt, but camo is funner.
     
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    How about camo paint then? I find some of the camo paints out today is not as irritating or sticky as some of the older stuff.


    You need to break up the shine on your face. net/mask/facepaint all does wonder in this area. The photos( color or black/white ) show your face is pretty much sticking out and the rest of you is blend in very well.
     
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    I probably have more color vision than a deer. (although my wife would laugh at that statement)

    The camo does a pretty good job of breaking up your outline.

    Good hunting!
     
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    NO WAY, noway, that camopaint has got to stink to anything with a nose. Isn't that stuff patrolium based?
     
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    Nah, camo is all about breaking up your outline, not blending in. And another poster had it right, standing still is mucho importante.
     
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    sharpshooter, a hat will do wonders for the shiney pale face syndrome. I suffer from the same condition too. Pull down the brim on my booney hat and the slit in my facemask no longer looks like a lighthouse. ;f It's a smaller brim and won't dink off the scope like a ball cap.

    Is that Pred. Camo Deception? That company makes some good camo. None of that silly detailed stuff, just good contrasting blocks. I have one of their long sleeve t-shirts for early season.

    A few more weeks and it's fur picking time.
     
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    {NO WAY, noway, that camopaint has got to stink to anything with a nose. Isn't that stuff patrolium based}

    No they actually make non scented camo paint been that way for years now.;)
     
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    Not to sound critical, but ya jumped out pretty fast. My uneducated guess would be too much of a sudden transition from light to dark, especially around the neck.


    But I dont even begin to claim to know what im talking about
     
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    I spotted you immediately, and I suspect any game animal would too. Now those realtree commercials where there's four guys hiding and you cant see them at all until they move, that's cool. Hey, maybe that's the trick -- don't move.

    Seriously, I use a camo face mask that has a very small cutout just big enough for your eyes, and a camo cap low over my forehead -- works great.
     
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    Dogs and coyotes are colorblind. Don't know if that makes any difference or not, but I'd bet that movement is more important than color of garb.
     
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    Sharpshooter's photo doesn't really simulate what a coyote sees though. It's about 30 yards away and only one framed chunk of country. Plus we're all humans looking for a hunter we know is there. A coyote is looking for a rabbit and is torn between being late for dinner and being cautious.

    If the photographer stepped back 70 yards or so and took a picture that camo and backdrop would hold up perfectly. My guess is that any coyote that sees a view as close as what's in the photo posted, he soon sees a bright white light.

    I like to setup so the coyote has cover in that mid range of 100-200 yards. 50 yards is ideal. This way when he's far away he's only seeing big shapes. When he breaks cover he's either rushing and not paying close attention or slinking in slow. Either way his fate is pretty much sealed.
     
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    Prone in the grass where you were, or in the shadows to the right or left would have been better. Or one of the premade Ghillie suits you can buy. A boonie hat with some netting hanging, or a facemask, will avoid the "floating white guy's head in the middle of a bush" syndrome.
     
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    Prone in this terrain would limit your field of vision to about 10 feet in any direction. This is some cluttered territory, I'd be sitting against a rock or tree typicaly. As previously stated, I'm kneeling up in the partial sun just so I could see what I looked like under non-ideal conditions.
     
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    Here's my buddy waiting for a coyote. He had just bought his Ruger Varmint rifle and hadn't camouflaged it yet:
    <img src="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-2/14007/NGKFUXCIVU-XSYXTZZIDAMIXRVNRLRW-leecamo1.jpg.JPG" width=700 height=525>
     
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    sharpshooter, the camo looks good to me. It's interesting to take various pictures, from various angles, to see how camo works. As someone said, it is actually more important to break up your outline than the color of the camo. This is why Blaze Orange camo works.

    I've taken pictures of my son in various terrain, and usually have him in the middle of the picture, so that you definitely can find him. I bet if you were off to the side, or if you said something like "look at this cool rock!", people wouldn't find you so easily in the picture.