I reload too, but reloading 10mm is still more expensive than reloading 9mm.
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How much more would it cost you if you were to reload 10mm and you had the brass ?
I am mostly interested in a 9mm PCC because I could shoot one at the ranges with steel plates at the gun club I belong too. It looks like a lot of fun. Rifle calibers and magnums are not allowed since they crater the plates and are hard on the plate racks in general. It may not say magnum but out of a long barrel a 10mm definitely is one. There is nothing I could do with a 10mm PCC I could not do just as well or better with a rifle caliber ARI would rather see it in 10mm .
Well, for one, I get to shoot a PCC at my indoor pistol range and in PCC competitions, unlike a .223 carbine. Second, my Ruger PCC shoots a standard pressure 9mm Speer 124 grain Gold Dot 157 fps faster than the same round out of my Sig P365 XL, for an extra 108 ft lbs of energy.A pistol caliber carbine has to be one of the most useless, un-needed firearms ever to come into existence, besides the 43X, 48 and 44. ........ I mean people that think they are all uber tactical!" If you are going to have a carbine, a person should get one that will do something, like an AR platform.
If you think Glock should do that, you aren't thinking very hard. Why would the most successful company in the gun business make the terrible mistake of jumping into a saturated carbine market? I have a 9mm AR that uses Glock 17 magazines sitting beside me right now. What does Glock gain by making a carbine?Am I alone in thinking that Glock should design and produce a 9mm carbine, or rifle? Given their legendary simplicity, reliability, and ergonomic, single basic-platform pistol design, a long gun using the same 'upper' design would've hit the shelves long ago. I always thought this was way overdue and that a lightweight carbine that uses standard Glock mech and mags would've been a 'natural progression' by now --- But Nooooooo!
I'd be the first to purchase one. I'd wager they would be flying off the shelves even faster than all the AR15's did in this current market.
Would you buy one if the price was in line with their pistolas? For the sake of debate, let's say in $1200 ballpark?
And curtain rods... there were 16 patents before the Glock 17.Glock makes GLOCK pistols (and knives and shovels), not long guns, they're not like Ruger who makes just about everything.
Absolutely.If Glock made a carbine, they would sell as many as they could produce.
What’s funny to me is that if you took a survey, most folks using the Ruger probably use Glock mags. I’d bet my bottom dollar that WHEN Glock brings one out it won’t use anyone else’s mags unless some aftermarket support makes an adapter. If Glock made red dots, they’d probably provide their MOS with that cut only.Would be sweet.
However, until they do, I’ll use my Ruger PC and PC Charger happily. Both set to take Glock mags.
Best of both worlds for me.
Probably so, and zero issues with it for me. Ruger probably catering to the Glock market. It was a HUGE selling point for me. For others, maybe not. However, using my Glock mags makes it perfect.What’s funny to me is that if you took a survey, most folks using the Ruger probably use Glock mags. I’d bet my bottom dollar that WHEN Glock brings one out it won’t use anyone else’s mags unless some aftermarket support makes an adapter. If Glock made red dots, they’d probably provide their MOS with that cut only.
It makes sense, I’m not faulting Ruger. If they made other adapters I bet they’d be purchased too.Probably so, and zero issues with it for me. Ruger probably catering to the Glock market. It was a HUGE selling point for me. For others, maybe not. However, using my Glock mags makes it perfect.
I heard the ATF recently announced a very "cryptic" ban on those frames, but there seems to be zero consensus as to what is / or is not legal... By-design, no doubt.