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Where do illegal guns come from?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by jetdefiant, Feb 19, 2010.

  1. jetdefiant

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    So we can all agree all guns start out legal(unless they are making them in their basement). My question is where does the supply of illegal guns come from? I dont really buy into the straw purchasing line and I know some are stolen, but I dont think the illegal gun supply is composed of mainly stolen guns (if i'm wrong please correct me).

    I'm curious as to what you think the majority of the illegal guns originate from? maybe some leo's can also chime in here with their experiences?
     
  2. Paul_J

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    If you are talking about Mexico, 83% of their guns come from countries other than the US.
     

  3. jetdefiant

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    I guess i should have been more specific. I was referring mainly to the guns used in crimes within the US like gangs and whatnot. By illegal guns I am referring to guns in the possession of something who is not legally allowed to own one or did not go through the legal process of obtaining one, whatever that legal process may be.
     
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    Let's get something straight first. Are you speaking of illegal GUNS (guns manufactured illegally) or are you speaking of the illegal ownership/possesion of guns? Big difference. Not really such a thing as an illegal inanimate object in this regard.

    I think the vast majority of guns owned/possessed illegally are stolen from law-abiding citizens. Most of them are old and poorly maintained and people that owned them either left them out for easy access or gave them to a family member who then either had it stolen or gave it to someone who wasn't supposed to have it.

    Greg
     
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    Are you thinking , full autos or handguns I'm gonna guess that they are all start out stolen from someone. the maker or a distibutor. Its a really thought prevoking question.
     
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    Illegal Gun Company began operations in 1874 when Harry Illegal purchased manufacturing rights and factory stock from Maynard Firearms.

    Since then, Illegal guns have seen service in every state and many foreign countries.

    Two of the most popular models....the Illegal "Saturday Night Special" and the Illegal "Assault Rifle"......account for over 80% of their sales in the US.
     
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    I heard that their stock just went up....

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    most come from the DHS
     
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    If you talk to the yankees in NY, they all come from Va.
     
  10. Armchair Commando

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    The Brady Campaign supplies all the worlds stolen guns! :supergrin:
     
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  12. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Your premise is wrong.
    A firearm, an inanimate object, has no and cannot have a lawful or unlawful characteristic.

    Legal and illegal, as determined by whatever power claims the right to do so, define a condition that applies to people, not things.

    An inanimate object may have the quality of being prohibited, but again, prohibition is just another nuance of legal or illegal and applies to people, not things.

    Why have you have accepted the deformed definition put forth by the hippie socialists when common sense tells you otherwise? :headscratch:

    To answer the original question and agreeing that the defintion is valid for the sake of argument, an illegal gun is anything those with power say it is.
     
  13. Kith

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    people can be prohibited too ... for instance "pedestrians prohibited on this road"
     
  14. tous

    tous GET A ROPE!

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    Indeed. Now, consider a violation of such a prohibition and a trial following. Is the road the defendant?
     
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    This thread hurts... seriously... stop posting in it. :rofl:
     
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    I don't understand what is so difficult about answering a simple question w/o launching into a polemic about one's political views.

    HeerGlock was kind enough to provide some good information. I would add that every study I have seen indicates that theft is the No.1 source, but that straw sales are right up there too. And most straw sales do in fact seem to be concentrated to a relatively few FFL's, either because of where they are located, the volume of business they do, and/or they are intentionally marketing that sort of business.
     
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl: