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whats the word on the .22lr glock?

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Rusty Phillips, Jul 12, 2003.

  1. Rusty Phillips

    Rusty Phillips Moderator Millennium Member

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    a while ago on the gssf website there was a survey asking about our interest in both a 45 glock (which we now have as the g37) and a 22lr glock

    anybody have any news on if / when we might see such a thing?

    will it be a conversion kit (slide /mag), or a complete gun, or available either way?

    ive been holding off on getting an advantage arms conversion for a while now, i really want to wait to see what glock might have..... but i dont want to wait until feb 2005

    thx rusty
     
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    TJC "No Compromise" Millennium Member

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    Rusty,

    Why wait. It will probably be some kind of useless cal. called a Glock .22. 1/32 of an inch shorter than a standard LR, using a different bullet.:)

    Just buy a nice Walther or Ruger .22 and be done with it.;f
     

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    Why would Glock want to compete with AACK, when AACK already has a the market cornered?
     
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    Rusty Phillips Moderator Millennium Member

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    dport - heres why i think they should do it

    1. glock could sell theirs for more money to the general public

    some people would still buy it over the AA conversion simply because it says glock on the side

    i would opt for glock 22 conversion over the AA kit if it was within $30 of the price

    2. glock can offer complete 22LR guns....

    cost might be less than their centerfire pistols (but i wouldnt expect them to be too much lower) making for an expensive 22 ($350 - $400), but the fact is that AA cannot sell you a complete gun - yet.

    3. glocks le sales contacts (& contracts) give them an advantage over advantage arms

    did you say you want 50 g32's, 5 22lr conversions, and a couple of red (inert) trainers? yes, we can do that!!
     
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    It's probably right behind the Gaston .45 on the assembly line. Will be out in 4 and a 1/4 months behind the 37.
     
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    G7 Mostly Metric

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    Rusty -
    I'd go ahead and get the AACK. Life is short. (Get the 17 or 19 size, the longer recoil springs work more reliably -- vs the 26 size.)

    The only nits I can pick is that I can only get about 200 rounds out of my AACK before it gums up, and needs to be cleaned. And, it doesn't like Federal 550 round Value-Packs.

    If Glock made a .22 conv. kit that would go 1000-2000 rounds between cleanings, I'd buy it as well.

    If Glock were to sell a complete .22 cal, it would have to be made in the USA (import points . . .)
     
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    DaleGribble Sandwich!

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    "The only nits I can pick is that I can only get about 200 rounds out of my AACK before it gums up, and needs to be cleaned. And, it doesn't like Federal 550 round Value-Packs."

    I got a Marlin Model 60 that was a jammomatic with the Federal .22, when I switched to the Remington .22lr Golden Bullet 550rd Value Pack the jamming stopped.
     
  9. Rusty Phillips

    Rusty Phillips Moderator Millennium Member

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    is this true?

    even for a full size?
     
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    G7 Mostly Metric

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    Rusty -

    The main problem is caliber, not frame size.

    A summary from "NRA Firearms Fact Book" 3rd ed. page 99-100:

    22 short and 25 ACP = 0 points
    22 lr and 7.65mm to .380 ACP = 3 points
    9mm para and OVER = 10 points

    Frame size is given as a prerequisite, with length + height = 10 inch MINIMUM, where length is a 6 inch MINIMUM, height 4 inch MINIMUM.
    Add 1 point for each 1/4 inch LONGER than 6".

    There are points for other things, though, like weight = 1 point per ounce. A .22 would take a hit, here, if it were designed like the conv. kits. If it had a stationary barrel, like a Ruger Mk II, it would fare much better.

    Click adjustable target sights = 10 points,
    Drift adjustable target sights = 5 points.

    Glock could gain 5 points here, by shipping guns with click sights.

    Double Action = 10 points
    I don't know if "SAFE ACTION" qualifies. I think it does.

    Locked Breech = 5 points.

    Loaded Chamber Indicator = 5 pts.

    Grip Safety = 3 pts.

    Magazine Safety = 5 pts.

    Firing Pin Block or Lock = 10 pts.

    External Hammer = 2 pts.

    Target grips = 5 pts.

    Target Trigger = 2 pts.

    Investment Cast or Forged Steel Frame = 15 pts.
    Investment Cast or Forged High Tensile Strength Alloy = 20 pts.


    QUALIFYING SCORE = 75 POINTS.


    From what I've read, the GLOCK 26 is about the minimum importable gun, having the grip altered to get "Target Grip" status, and the trigger serrated to get "Target Trigger" status.

    .22 lr drops 7 pts to 9mm, BUT those may be able to be made up with Click sights, more weight, etc.

    I am now more hopeful after looking more carefully at the point system. A bull-barrel, Ruger-type setup with weighted magazines (for balance AND points) and a Click Adjustable Target Sight - - - Hmmmmm ;)