What's the shortest buffer tube for an adjustable stock/brace?

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  1. yocan

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    I was told there was a reliable way to run a 11.5 barrel on an ar pistol set up and be oal under 26. The only way I'm finding is the old school brace tube (phase 5 where you stick the old sig brace on) Is there a shorter tube that will work (I only run stocks 4/6 back so I don't care that I lose the last 2 adjustment points) or am I looking at suffered reliablilty. I'd rather shoot with a 10.5 then maybe shoot with an 11.5 obviously.
     
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    I have a 10.5" AR and 7.5" AR, ever thought about going shorter with the barrel as well?
     
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    Why are you trying to limit yourself to 26"? State law?
     
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    yes sub 26 for not having to unload to conceal or car carry it
     
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    umm Last sentence of my post discusses 10.5 a 7.5 in 223 isn't worth owning ballistically imo
     
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    Would filling the last couple adjustment holes on a standard tube with epoxy so that the stock won't lock beyond 26" work? ...or will the stock not collapse far enough to reach 26" to begin with?
     
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    Shortest fireable configuration. I don't even count the flash hider.
     
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    I’ve been looking into this myself. I hope you find a solution.
     
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    The simple solution is to go with a shorter barrel, preferably in 300 BLK, so as not to lose all your power. An 8" barrel in a 300 will still wreak havok, while keeping you under the total length limit.
     
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    If your state laws measure while folded I would do a Law as well.
     
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    Troy PDW stock.

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    how stable is that? Again though that pricepoint law folder wins, especially when I already have bcm bcgs that are reliable. Out of curiousity how does it compare weight wise to a normal bcg and a sba3? I'd also have to sbr it I believe which granted I could do in mi but still
     
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    If you are planning to SBR it, everything said up to now goes out the window. The last letter in SBR is "R", as in RIFLE. A rifle is not a pistol, even if it is shorter than 26 inches.
    Putting a brace on an SBR does not convert it into a pistol.

    The Troy PDW is available as a brace, if you are planning on keeping it a pistol.
     
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    oddly enough in Mi a SBR can be a michigan pistol and be carried... but I don't intend to do that. I don't think anyone wants to use a class III anything in a shooting.
     
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    Pretty rock solid. It doesn't extend out as far as a normal stock. As someone else mentioned they do make brace versions now. Mine is an SBR. Weight wise i haven't noticed any major difference but it is a solid unit. Troy makes good products. Zero issues
     
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    Ballistically, and financially, speaking, you might as well carry a 9mm, or 40, or AK pistol.
     
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    thats why I"m trying to get up to 11.5" barrel I'm pretty happy at 2600 fps