What's an easier skill to learn, say within 6 months...

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  1. M&P15T

    M&P15T Well I'll Be Dipped!!!

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  3. Glock-O-Rican

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    Nither, both require a lot of time to be good at. Basic's maybe, nothing more.
     
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    Your too old, study judo
     
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    Second vote here for Krav Maga. For self defense, it has a much faster learning curve than boxing or MMA
     
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    Serious question to the op. What kind of shape are you in? Can you do 20 pushups? Can you run a mile? Can you get out of a chair without assistance? Do you have any fighting experience or training?
     
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    WT Millennium Member

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    Boxing.

    I suggest picking up a copy of Peter DePasquale's The Boxer's Workout: Fitness for the Civilized Man.
     
  9. Sharkey

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    Why don't you focus on basic combat skills for six months and you will be well rounded as opposed to one of the 2.
    Mix in strikes, kicks, elbows, some jujitsu, and wrestling. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

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  10. Sharkey

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    As a Meskin,I find that hilarious and slightly racist.

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    This is truly not for me. It's for a 19 yo kid that I've taken under my wing and I'm teaching him a bit about weight training so he can be stronger and gain some more confidence. I recognize that the martial arts I learned in college is useless today. The kid is actually an incredible underachiever in the man department since he was raised by his mom. he has expressed interest in learning one of the martial arts. Knowing him, though, he may not stay with it for over a few months unless he sees lots of progress.
     
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    As a joo, I find it hilarious because it's slightly racist. :)
     
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    You can teach him karate in 30 minutes. I've seen the method on tv. Just teach him the rules.
    1) strike first
    2) strike fast
    3) no mercy
     
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    Going against the grain here...but hear me out.

    6 months of frequent BJJ training would make you a moderately skilled white belt... and a moderately skilled BJJ white belt would easily win 95%+ street fights.

    Highly trained fighters are not frequent street fighters or criminals.

    Also... the healing time for a hand/wrist injury (common with boxers) is much longer than the joint pain and pulled muscles associated with people new to BJJ.

    Anecdotal evidence... My son wrestled in HS all 4 years and earned his black belt in TKD when he was 14. From March(?) his Senior year to the time he shipped out to ARMT BCT in August he trained several days a week at a local BJJ school owned by a fellow wrestler’s family. The first time he rolled with non-BJJ or non-wrestlers was during the ARMY “Combatives” portion of basic. He destroyed them. He told me it was like they were trying to lose because they put themselves in bad positions so frequently (like untrained people do) and panic set in when he exposed their bad decisions. They had them separated by weight and skill level as perceived by the Drill SGTs and he ended up finishing 2nd to a much larger State Champ level wrestler from Vermont... said that guy was just a beast.

    With 5 ish months training he went from a moderate HS wrestler to blasting freshly trained ARMY combative students... he is sold on BJJ.
     
  15. G26-Has-my-6

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    do you have the flexibility for MMA? I think this is the biggest challenge.
     
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    Strike first, strike last, strike some more, and when they are on the ground kick them in the nuts then run away!
     
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    There's so much wrong in your post, I don't even know where to start.

    I'll just ask, what is closer to a real street fight? Boxing or MMA? Being prepared for all aspects of a real fight and not just boxing with your hands is obviously the better choice. If you pit any top boxer against even a mid level mma guy in a real fight, the boxer will lose every single time if the mma guy decides to take him down.
     
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    I think BJJ would be a good fit.

    I'm a bit more optimistic about what can be gained in six months of grappling. I did jiu-jitsu (all ground based, so like BJJ) and judo for a while in my mid 20s. After six months, I had come pretty far. Not UFC-ready, obviously, but I could give anybody in the class a good fight.

    In jiu-jitsu, we spent a few classes on striking, mostly to learn how to close the gap without getting KOed. I also trained with one of my boxer friends a couple of times. I didn't like striking as much. It's no fun getting hit in the head repeatedly. I'm not sure that's such a good idea from a safety standpoint, either.
     
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    Work on your sprinting skills
     
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  20. ScottMn

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    The OP mentioned MMA not BJJ. MMA supposedly combines disciplines. Those in MMA right now have discovered that they HAVE to learn how to strike (hands or feet) to survive. The days of Royce Gracie surviving on pure BJJ are long gone.

    I originally voted for boxing since I apparently can't read today but I'll change my vote to MMA if your 19 year old friend can find a good school and stick with it long enough.
     
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