[Buckeye63]

When our County LE carried 21's .. They used Remington 230gr Golden Sabers ..
I carry them in my 36 and XDS45

 

[tall terry]

Officers use the load they are issued,, as they use the weapon issued.. the agency doesn't always choose their ammo based on effectiveness,, usually it's quantity discounts...
If you intend to mirror LE agencies, you are probably selling yourself short,, you have a choice. And choose to follow..

 

[Ranger357]

I agree with tall terry, but would say if you pick the same load as several major departments, it’s likely a decent round.

 

[weapontrainer]

Glock 21SF and Federal Premium HST 230gr+P, prior to that it was Winchester Ranger 230gr T+P

 

[BrthrB]

We issue Federal HST 230 +P bonded hollow point.

 

[BobR1]

I have been retired almost 10 years. I carried PMC StarFire, and Golden Saber's in a 5" 1911 Colt. I have several different 45acp carry loads from about 15 yars ago that I tested. The Black Talons sure looked nasty expanded, but I was of the opinion they penetrated a little too deep in my testing. I only fired One round of 45acp on duty. I believe it was a Golden Saber I shot a mean dog with. No issue with performance. A One Shot DRT Stop. Good thing too, I was real close to a nasty dog bite.

Bob R

 

[Mr. S]

We issue Federal HST 230 +P bonded hollow point.

Federal HST is not bonded

 

[stevewonderful]

"Federal HST is not bonded."

Perhaps he meant this: https://www.luckygunner.com/45-acp-...nded-hp-federal-le-tactical-50-rounds#geltest

 

[BrthrB]

Federal P45HST2. Sorry, I misspoke, it is not bonded.

 

[Glolt20-91]

My only 45auto experience has been with the 230gr HST +P and it performed well. A few years ago I was hard charged by two pit bulls on my property. The Colt 1911 Government muzzle to head distance of the largest PB was about two feet, the HST entered its left eye socket, separated its lower jaw and cracked its skull from the eye socket to left ear...instantaneous stop. This is my 1911 carry round.

One of my home choices is a SA XD Tactical w/Streamlight HL-1 and 230gr Ranger T +P, I've tested it and it's one nasty bullet. Ballpark a 14"-15" bullet with about 0.85"-0.90" expansion...should make for a very large crush cavity.

 

[Operator_AF]

Stuck with 230 Hydra Shot here.

 

[CWPINSTR]

Recently I spoke with Officer Gregory Stephens (Garland Tx) He was involved in a shootout with a couple of terrorists. He took them down with his Glock 21 using 230gr. Gold Dots. He said that one round got plugged with material from one of the perps LBE, but the others did just fine. This is just one example but they did OK.

 

[GlockWheeler]

The agency I work for issues 230 grain HST +P with their Gen 4 Glock 21 pistols.

 

[walkin' trails]

When I carried a 45 (G21, 21SF, and M&P45), issued ammo was Federal 230 grain Hydra Shok and Remington 230 grain Golden Saber (not bonded). When I was with the Border Patrol, the issued duty ammo for the personally owned P220s was the Remington 185 +P. I’ve seen departments issuing Winchester Ranger and Federal 230 grain HST and HST +P. Any of those loads, plus Speer Gold Dots are considered good, and should function both reliably and accurately thru a G21.

 

[Pete Perfection]

Speer gold dot. Just use it and be done with it.

 

[wreckless]

My department used Federal 230gr HST rounds in our G21’s.

 

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Recently I spoke with Officer Gregory Stephens (Garland Tx) He was involved in a shootout with a couple of terrorists. He took them down with his Glock 21 using 230gr. Gold Dots. He said that one round got plugged with material from one of the perps LBE, but the others did just fine. This is just one example but they did OK.

I'd love to shake Greg Stephens hand.