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What is the next great leap in handguns?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by wolfman97, Mar 25, 2010.

  1. wolfman97

    wolfman97

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    The 1911 was a milestone in handguns that changed everything. Likewise, the Glock was another milestone. The two together have an unusual domination of the handgun market.

    What will be the next great leap in handguns? What will be the next 1911/Glock?

    What advantages would a firearm have to have before it could become the next big dominant market force? What would it have to do better before you would feel comfortable dumping your 1911/Glock for the new standard?

    Better grip? Higher capacity? Homing fire-and-forget bullets?

    What would the gun have to do before you would say "screw Glock" and go with the new weapon?
     
  2. HerrGlock

    HerrGlock Scouts Out CLM

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    Caseless ammo. The price of brass is high enough it might actually be time for it to happen.
     

  3. DR. HOUSE

    DR. HOUSE Everybody Lies

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    high speed lead flinging is old.... i say laserbeams and deathrays
     
  5. devildog2067

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    I was gonna say caseless ammo. Think about how many potential problems can be eliminated when you don't have extraction/ejection anymore.
     
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    Plasma Gun! No bullets required.:tongueout:
     
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    Energy weapons are a long, long way off unless we have some breakthrough in battery storage technology right now. The energy density of current batteries simply isn't high enough to build practical man-portable weapons.

    Chemicals of various sorts (gunpowder, gasoline) are still the most compact, easy-to-transport, high-capacity energy storage known to man.
     
  8. wolfman97

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    Not to mention rate of fire.
     
  9. raven11

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    +1

    and what a revolution we will see, look what happened when we started using the cartridge
     
  10. HerrGlock

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    Not to mention not mentioning the havoc it will cause on CA's microstamping law :animlol:
     
  11. Smashy

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    The next milestone in handguns is already here...


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  12. HerrGlock

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    Kershaw makes a handgun disguised as a knife? :supergrin:
     
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    Last gun show I went to a guy selling a cartridge collection had a round from the g11. The cookoff issues might not be the problem with a semi auto pistol that it was with a full auto rifle.
     
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    Belt fed baby!!
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  15. ancient_serpent

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    I don't know, those two will be tough acts to follow. Not to mention, that the designs are constantly being refined and improved. I own and use both extensively (and as blasphemous as it is, both are in my carry battery!)
     
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    Caseless ammo would be my guess too.
     
  17. Beware Owner

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    I'd say the caseless ammo is already on it's way, in handguns, that should increase capacity incredibly, which I surmise would equate to no more need to carry extra mags for the average civilian.
     
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    The 357sig......................oh, sorry, thats been done already.......:whistling:
     
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    Given that the average civilian shootout lasts under 3 seconds and has an average of something like 1-2 shots fired, I'd say we are already at a point where the average person doesn't need to carry extra mags.

    If I shoot through my 15+1 rounds and still am not out of danger, I think I've brought the wrong weapon.