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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by Alden2, Feb 1, 2010.
Someone told me CCI Velociters. 40 gr and 1460 fps.
Seems like that would be hard to beat.
I thought CCI Stingers were pretty good.
The CCI website will give all the velocities/energy scales.
Stingers are very fast, but light. 32 gr I believe.
Aguila SSS, 60gr solid. Yeah, it's subsonic but it hits HARD.
how do you like these rounds, i am really interested to hear how well they do in penetration and accuracy.
according to CCI:
Velocitors have 183 Ft/Lb at 1435 fps at the muzzle
Stinger have 191 ft/lb at 1640 fps at the muzzle
at 50 yards:
Velocitor has 134 Ft/Lb
Stinger has 119 Ft/lb
Now at 100 yards:
Velocitor retains 104 ft/lb at 1080 fps
Stinger retains 81 ft/lb at 1066 fps
Energy is mass x velocity squared
At the risk of being tacky,I would have thought that "hard hitting .22 lr" is about the same as "economical .416 Rigby plinking' ammo
One needs a special barrel with a faster twist of 1:9 to stabilize the Super Sniper Sub Sonic rounds, otherwise they suck. My Ruger 10/22 would manually load and fire but wouldn't eject or group under 8" at 25 feet.
The Israeli army used .22 subsonic rounds as crowd control but pulled the 10/22 rifles from use as they were not "Non-lethal".
Arguing about which .22LR hits the hardest is like 2 Army privates arguing about who has the most rank. Technically one of them will out rank the other, but in the grand scheme of things it really doesn't matter.
Which is the fastest snail?
Good example. BUT if you were one of the privates in the arguement then it matters.
I enjoy shooting 22 caliber rifles and pistols. Plink away a whole afternoon for just a few bucks. Alright a few more bucks now but still pretty inexpensive, outdoors and getting trigger time.
I have a 416 Remington Magnum, no it's not a cheap plinker.
Your problem is the Ruger, not the ammo.
While not the best round, SSS groups good enough for me used in hunting from 50ft or less. Excellent for head shots on Raccoon, Opossum, Skunk.
I've killed plenty with it in my Bolt Action Marlins.
Really depends a LOT on twist and length of barrel.
Head over to www.rimfirecentral.com those guys are .22 GODS!!! They have absolutely every answer and stats you could ever dream of. I hung out there alot in 2008 and 2009 and built a few guns based on stuff I learned from them. Good guys. Alot less gun snobbery over there. I guess its hard to be a snob when everybody is shooting a 22?
Having once been an Army private, no it really doesn't matter because there will always be someone else around of a higher rank telling you both what to do.
But to answer the OP's question.
I've had best luck with the CCI Velocitors. Being a 40 gr bullet they shoot better in a wide range of .22 firearms then the Stingers which are very light and fast or the Aquila SSS which are very slow and heavy.
very educating thread. thanks
Having shot a fair number of feral cats (quit counting at 100) I found that the 60 gr Arguila kills better than the super fast stuff. It's also capable of killing crows better. You do have to find a gun that likes it though. I used a single shot pistol (German Voere) and a Winchester 52.
I'm trying to research this topic as well, since I would like to start hunting the rabbits in the near future.
You right, .22 is nothing comparing to some other loads, but the original question has a lot of sense to some people here.
Just my 0.02
This might help...
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