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By your definition what are “liberals”?
As opposed to classical liberalism which advocated for the rights of the individual and opposed feudalism where the masses were subservient to the monarchy, modern day Liberals believe that big government should take the place of the monarchy and that individual rights should give way to collective rights but only as approved, sanctioned, and controlled by big government.

Modern day Liberals AKA "Progressives" are Utopians who believe in a benevolent totalitarianism made of people who "Care" and have unlimited power over their subjects, and believe that such power will always be used to do good rather than harm.
 

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I find it kinda funny that if you replaced “liberal” with “Jew” this place would be a carbon copy of Stormfront. No context, no nuance, just blame all the worlds problems on one group. They run the banks, the media, the government and they are out to get you personally!
In a way that’s what i was hoping to illustrate. That the problems are multifaceted and complex, while many of the views we take are one sided and divisive. The problem with america is how we decide to see it, and whether we feel we can make a positive change or whether we are powerless.
 

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As opposed to classical liberalism which advocated for the rights of the individual and opposed feudalism where the masses were subservient to the monarchy, modern day Liberals believe that big government should take the place of the monarchy and that individual rights should give way to collective rights but only as approved, sanctioned, and controlled by big government.

Modern day Liberals AKA "Progressives" are Utopians who believe in a benevolent totalitarianism made of people who "Care" and have unlimited power over their subjects, and believe that such power will always be used to do good rather than harm.
I understand your point but i believe these people are a tiny minority. None of the liberal minded people i know think there’s going to be a utopia or that there wont be abuse of power. They do seem to think it is the government’s responsibility to provide certain services for tax dollars, like education instead of wars.
 

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For the most part, the young people of today lack moral code and vote liberal.
 

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Unable to vote because the all-encompassing answer "themselves" or "ourselves" weren't listed as choices.

Yes, the problems are multi-faceted and very complex. The world is rapidly getting bigger and smaller at the same time.

More people mean more problems regarding getting everyone to co-exist and agree how they're willing to live together, in both small groupings and with other groups.

Some people seemingly want to reshape the viewpoint of everyone else to make everything into a clear cut right/wrong, black/white world. If that was case, even when times were much simpler ... meaning at the founding of our nation ... the founders wouldn't have had to engage in the prolonged discourse and arguments recorded by history. Nor would they have had to argue so much about adding a Bill of Rights to accompany the Constitution, and what needed to be in it.

Then again, some folks seem to think that just because they can communicate their feelings with smartphones and other devices, that everything they have to say is worth hearing, or must be heard, let alone may be relevant or correct.

Angst, and substituting feelings for deliberate thinking, seems to rule the lives of a dismaying number of people.
 

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Unable to vote because the all-encompassing answer "themselves" or "ourselves" weren't listed as choices.

Yes, the problems are multi-faceted and very complex. The world is rapidly getting bigger and smaller at the same time.

More people mean more problems regarding getting everyone to co-exist and agree how they're willing to live together, in both small groupings and with other groups.

Some people seemingly want to reshape the viewpoint of everyone else to make everything into a clear cut right/wrong, black/white world. If that was case, even when times were much simpler ... meaning at the founding of our nation ... the founders wouldn't have had to engage in the prolonged discourse and arguments recorded by history. Nor would they have had to argue so much about adding a Bill of Rights to accompany the Constitution, and what needed to be in it.

Then again, some folks seem to think that just because they can communicate their feelings with smartphones and other devices, that everything they have to say is worth hearing, or must be heard, let alone may be relevant or correct.

Angst, and substituting feelings for deliberate thinking, seems to rule the lives of a dismaying number of people.
Critical thinking skills are certainly on the decline.
 

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Critical thinking skills are certainly on the decline.
I've often wondered if it's because people increasingly seem to be relying upon looking up an answer on their phones, ipads or computers, instead of having to learn and remember info, and don't often have to support their opinions with anything other than quoting wikipedia.
 

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Idiot Americans
 

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drugs, illegal and otherwise. Millions of sick zombies who can't think or fend for themselves.
Screw them.

There should be community use wood chippers and compost piles where you can dump the discards of society.
 

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I've often wondered if it's because people increasingly seem to be relying upon looking up an answer on their phones, ipads or computers, instead of having to learn and remember info, and don't often have to support their opinions with anything other than quoting wikipedia.
I feel like its not something technological but something that is ommitted from education entirely. People usually start developing critical abstract reasoning abilities from 8-11 years old, and there’s nothing in the ‘learning by rote’ system of education that exploits this.
It would be great if kids could be taught according to their strengths at that age in order to help them beat determine a good path for their individual proclivities as well as bolster their weaknesses.
People would waste alot less time and money figuring it out later in life and society would likely be more productive, wealthy and happy as a result.
 

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According to Gibbon in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, this is why Rome fell after 500 years of world dominance: (substitute "American" for "Roman" and the lesson still applies)
  • First: The rapid increase of divorce, with the undermining of the sanctity of the home, which is the basis of society.
  • Second: Higher and higher taxes; and the spending of public money on bread and circuses.
  • Third: The mad craze for pleasure, sports becoming every year more exciting and more brutal.
  • Fourth: The building of gigantic armies to fight external enemies, when the most deadly enemy, the decadence of the people, lay within.
  • Fifth: The decay of religion; faith fading into mere form, losing touch with life, and becoming impotent to guide it.
 

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According to Gibbon in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, this is why Rome fell after 500 years of world dominance: (substitute "American" for "Roman" and the lesson still applies)
  • First: The rapid increase of divorce, with the undermining of the sanctity of the home, which is the basis of society.
  • Second: Higher and higher taxes; and the spending of public money on bread and circuses.
  • Third: The mad craze for pleasure, sports becoming every year more exciting and more brutal.
  • Fourth: The building of gigantic armies to fight external enemies, when the most deadly enemy, the decadence of the people, lay within.
  • Fifth: The decay of religion; faith fading into mere form, losing touch with life, and becoming impotent to guide it.
Historians have argued and disagreed about this for some years.

Some sources (like the History Channel link which follows) even mentioned that the rise of Christianity played a part by corrupting traditional Roman values.

https://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-reasons-why-rome-fell
 

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According to Gibbon in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, this is why Rome fell after 500 years of world dominance: (substitute "American" for "Roman" and the lesson still applies)
  • First: The rapid increase of divorce, with the undermining of the sanctity of the home, which is the basis of society.
  • Second: Higher and higher taxes; and the spending of public money on bread and circuses.
  • Third: The mad craze for pleasure, sports becoming every year more exciting and more brutal.
  • Fourth: The building of gigantic armies to fight external enemies, when the most deadly enemy, the decadence of the people, lay within.
  • Fifth: The decay of religion; faith fading into mere form, losing touch with life, and becoming impotent to guide it.
Exactly
 

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The term “political winds” wasn’t coined because politics is so stable and unchanging.
The biggest problem is praising and drooling over the people “our guy” put in office, but they go from the greatest thing since sliced bread to the worst commie pinko, Hillary lover if they don’t toe the razor thin line of “loyalty”


Yes men aren’t always the best men


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