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What if Toyota just pulls out of the US?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by NRA_guy, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. NRA_guy

    NRA_guy Unreconstructed

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    I have been thinking: Wonder how much net profit Toyota makes on vehicles in the US every year?

    And, is it worth what the company is going through?

    I know they have invested billions in factories. And subcontractors have invested billions more.

    And their payroll (Toyota's and their subs and all the truck drivers hauling their stuff) must be tremendous.

    And the Toyota dealerships and advertising must add millions more to the US economy.

    Here's my question: What if, instead of paying the US $16 million, Toyota just shut down everything in the US?

    What if Toyota just took their marbles and went to China or somewhere?

    Obviously, the Obama administration has targeted Toyota because they are (a) non-union, and (b) GM and Chrysler's greatest competition.

    On top of the $16 million fine, news is talking about billions of dollars in class action law suits by Toyota owners, and how much it will cost the company to defend itself---even if they should win, which they probably won't.

    Those Japanese just might decide it is not worth the harassment. Honor may be worth more to Toyota than the income they get.
     
  2. rauldduke1979

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    $16 mil is a pittance to a big company like Toyota. They'll have top law firms defending them in any class action suits, and I'm sure they'll settle most of those claims out of court.

    Pulling out of the U.S. market would be insane. Toyota may have a Japanese man as CEO, but they are a global company and they need to be in as many markets as possible - especially the U.S. I realize the folks on CNN think America is on the "decline" but we're still a pretty good market for cars (we may soon be overtaken by China for the #1 car market, but guess what, in a world with 190 countries #2 still carries a lot of weight).

    Plus, Toyota is publicly held. If they announced they were pulling out of the U.S. market the money managers that own Toyota would assume that they had gone insane and pull all funding. No more Toyota.
     

  3. faawrenchbndr

    faawrenchbndr CLM

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    Toyota pulling out of the US would be a major economic hit! Thousands directly employed by Toyota.
    A few more thousand employed indirectly by Toyota. Most are BUILT in the US.

    Kinda funny,.......the models that are manufactured in Japan are uneffected by this gas pedal recall crap.

    Can anyone explain that crap?! US recall on US manufactured products?!:whistling:
     
  4. JMS

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    CTS supplied US pedal, Denso supplied JDM pedal. I have to find a diagram from Automotive News. Every few issues they show a new car and all the suppliers that build the parts for it. Toyota does not make any parts of the vehicle, they put it together and slap their name on it. Very few companies do it any differently than Toyota.

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  5. blackjack

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    Exactly -- I expect Henry Ford's River Rouge plant was the last fully-integrated auto production plant: iron ore in one end, cars out the other.
     
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    faawrenchbndr CLM

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    Exactly,.......funny how CNN and all the news-nazis do not mention anything about this.
    I just think it's ODD that no Toyota models that are built in Japan are effected, not a single one!
    Maybe it's a sabatoge tactic from Obama motors. They just want to get in every dig they can on Toyota.

    We have a '05 F150 and an '08 FJ Cruiser,....... love them both!
     
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    Can you say: Conflect of interest!:steamed:
     
  8. hamster

    hamster NRA Life Member

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    Buy American! :patriot:
     
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    To answer the thread........then it would be Obama's fault.:wavey:
     
  10. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast

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    obviously??


    Dude, just because Rush says it ides not make it true.
     
  11. slewfoot

    slewfoot Random Mayhem

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    He is usually closer to the truth than many.

    This administration has too big of a stake in Gov Motors not to resort to dirty tactics.

    This is how these people operate.
     
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    FLIPPER 348 Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast

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    another sheep

    you people will believe anything the man says I guess
     
  13. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    Toyota would go out of business if they "pulled" out of the U.S. right now. So it is not an issue.
     
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    Yep...we are the biggest car market in the world.
     
  15. Fixxer

    Fixxer Got ointment?

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    I haven't listened to Rush Limbaugh for 15 or so years, so spare me your condescension.

    It IS how these people operate. Deal with it.
     
  16. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    I love how newscasters are going ga-ga over the $16M. It's just really really funny to watch them. That's only 800 cars worth of cost. Big deal.
     
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    Not anymore. But they still can't afford to lose the second biggest market.
     
  18. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    It depends on how you quantify that. It is speculated that China *may* or very soon will have a higher volume of sales than anywhere else but it sure doesnt have the gross value in sales of the U.S.

    It should also be noted that when you have an industry that is government subsidized like the Chinese auto industry it really makes the numbers far more skewed. (someone will pipe up about the us bailout, it aint the same thing...)

    To put it simply, China does not have anywhere near the economic impact that the U.S. auto market has.
     
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    GWSHARK BITEYAHEADOFF

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    This is getting good!

    :rofl::rofl::rofl: