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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by Trench Sweeper, Nov 11, 2019.
Was a Glock 23 but retired 4 years ago.
Now, EDC is a DW 1911 Valor in 10mm.
I will admit to having worse.
A S&W Gen1 or 1.0 or original whatever... in .40.
The worst trigger I’ve ever shot.
First one I got would stovepipe several times through a mag.
Got new mags.
Next time at the range, several dead triggers due to the pistol ejecting but not chambering a new round. Was told my weapon must be dirty. Umm, no.
Got new mags.
New mags wouldn’t lock back after last rounds.
Got a new pistol. (What!?!)
Current iteration hasn’t failed me yet, but that trigger is nasty.
Last department I had a 5906. I liked that pistol.
Before that was the 686, I didn’t mind it either.
If I had my choice it’d be a 17 or 34 w/ TLR-1h.
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What we can carry depends on when we hired on. When the Department transitions to a new weapon, only new officers going forward are issued the new weapons. If we choose to transition, we must purchase the new weapon out of our own pockets and take a transition class. When I came on, I was issued a .38 revolver. We eventually transitioned to Beretta 9mms, and then to Glocks, and finally M&Ps. They also introduced the Smith & Wesson 3rd generation .45, and the 1911 platforms for us to choose from. That being said, what I carry depends on my mood, but it can be a .38 S&W revolver, a Beretta 92F, a S&W 4506, a Glock or an M&P. I get to choose 9mm, .40 S&W or .45 ACP.
Gen 3 G21 with a 1200 lumen weaponlight
Currently Gen 4 G-22's. Early next year we will be transitioning to G-45's with an RMR and issued lights.
G21SF. New guys were issued G21 Gen 4. We will be switching to G17 Gen 5 in a few weeks.
We are issued Sig P229 DAK’s in .357 Sig with Streamlight TLR-1s. Our duty ammo in Hornady Critical Duty.
The 229s are pretty much universally hated, but next year we are going to be switching to P320s in 9mm.
My agency transitioned to the Gen 5 G17 w/ the Ameriglo Agent sights earlier this year. Issued duty ammo is the Speer G2 147gr.
22.1 is a gen 2 no rail. 22.3?
Anyone who can legally carry, should.
What a mess for the instructors and armorers!
My department issues Glock 17 gen 5 now.
But when I first started in the mid 90s we issued S&W 4043, a DAO, aluminum frame, 11 round, 40. I hate to talk bad about any gun but they sucked. They were absolutely horrible.
They were top heavy. They had a high bore line (above the hand) and with the pulse from the 40 the recoil was awkward. They malfunctioned. The trigger was long and heavy making shooting and qualifications very difficult. The anodizing on the aluminum wore/flaked off. I consider them the Chauchat of my generation.
I griped and moaned enough about them until my lieutenant said do something about it. I researched it and put together a package for the department to propose to the city council and we were authorized to switch to the Glock 22. We were allowed to get 5 guns at a time for about the first 15 guns then we finally bought the rest in one lump sum. The senior officers were allowed first access to them and I was low man on the totem pole but I was allowed to purchase a department spec gun on my own. We used G22/23/27 until about 2011 when we switched to G19/17.
If you feel strongly about it keep trying to get your agency to switch to a better platform. Don't give up. Sometimes you can use grants or confiscated drug money for equipment upgrades. If I can provide any advice or assistance, message me directly.
What the what? Terrible. Just terrible.
I've jumped between a few departments over the years which contributes to my list.
I started with a Sig 226 .40
Went to a Sig 229 .40
Glock 21 with a Glock 30 bug
New department, company gun was Gen 3 Glock 22 with a Gen 2 27 bug.
New (current department) Glock 35.
Drank the 9mm juice and went to Gen 4 Glock 34 with a 26 bug.
Working on getting my 19x ready to run a dot.
The benefit of a large agency is a full time staff of Department armorers and range instructors. We run qualifications 7 days a week, up to 16 hours a day, every half hour.
The size of the Department also makes it difficult to transition weapons systems. No way, they would trade out 10,000+ guns at a time, every time they switched. Thus the “going forward” policy.
Staffing makes all the difference! I have to balance taking calls, supervising and approving paperwork, running and supervising all training and being an armorer, projects from the chief, and being as proactive as possible.
That's one of the main reasons we went from 5 guns in 3 calibers to 1 gun in a common caliber.
Gen 4 23.
This is all plain clothes investigators. When I retired, we carried Beretta 96s.
10" crescent and med. Channel locks!
I hate the DAK trigger, but enjoy shooting the 226/229 platforms in DA/SA. Critical Defense is interesting, just wont pay for the Duty?
Thanks for catching my mistake, I meant to say Critical Duty not Critical Defense.