What do they teach in armorer’s class?

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  1. Squib77

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    The gun is so simple, what do they teach? I’ve always wondered this.
     
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    Geeorge Sarcasm Inc.

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  5. anubismp

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    I attended one I believe it was early this year or late last year and felt it was easily worth my time. Picked up free tools and a mat and replacement parts were readily available. As well we worked on Gens 4 and 5 and covered all the variations on internals and how they interface. I'm looking forward to recertifying, it was a fun day.
     
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  6. Bradley T

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    Well, I've never taken a course, but I'm sure you would know that the pistol is kind of designed to have the pin forward and trigger fully rearward or pin retracted and trigger "connected" in order to slide the upper back on.

    I'm still trying to figure what that thread was about....
    Perhaps an armorer's course?
     
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    Bwillis NRA LIfe Member

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    It’s like being a Mason you can only discuss with other Masons. I will tell you the glock armorers handshake is better.
     
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    It’s like being an ASE certified brake specialist. You won’t be any better at doing a brake job, but you will have a piece of paper that says you are an ASE Certified Brake Specialist, which is nice. It makes some people stop and listen when you say it, but it doesn’t make you a mechanic.

    You can be a certified Glock Armorer in no time, but it doesn’t make you a gunsmith. Far from it.
     
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  9. Squib77

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    Ok. So no one else knows either.
     
  10. Lt1352

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    Unless it has changed from when I took it, and with the new models it probably has, you learn parts replacement and diagnosis. My class was 2 days and probably could have been done in 1. No real "gunsmithing" because you just swap a bad part with a good one.
     
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  11. Pistolay

    Pistolay Wut?

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    My class was this past April.

    We completely disassembled and reassembled a gen 5 G17 and a gen 4 frame (because the slides are the same). The gen 4 frames were from different models, mine was a 22. Along the way, we got tips and tricks about the best way to do things, some of which weren't obvious. We also had personal attention from the instructor, if needed. After reassembly, we had to turn them in along with our names so they could be inspected and graded after the class. We also had a written exam at the end of the day.

    We got the latest armorer's manual (gen 5), a mat, a nice part holder and a Glock tool to take home with us.
     
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    I bought a used Lenny Magill disassembly/reassembly DVD. It taught me everything I needed to know. From what I know of the armorers course you get a certificate for the same thing.
     
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    cciman MacGyver

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    Allows one to hang a shingle, perhaps for installing Glock parts.

    Like being an NRA instructor, whatever that means- does not nec mean the best shooter, nor the most all knowing about guns. Means "had some additional training".
     
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    Ummm lemme see... a piece of paper dosent meen you know what your doing. If you can`t tear your glock down, put it back together, and have it work properly, then you probably shouldnt own the gun. The owners manual that comes with the gun, pretty much gets you by, if you`ve never tore a glock down before (its not rocket science). I`ve seen a few so-called "certified" glock armors work on glocks, all the certificate did was inflate their ego`s. And their ego`s exceeded their talents. Glock should just send that certificate with every glock sold. Its not that hard to figure out a glock, or fix it. And yes, i went to a glock amours class, it didnt teach me anything that i didn`t already know. Are their benefits...? Yeah i guess so, free cheezy tools, a mat, and a piece of paper for bragging rights.

    Let me sum this up:
    Yesterday, i cuddint spell mecanick, bought some tools today, now i r one.
    The armors class is basic... its NOT going to make you a master gunsmith.
     
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    Lets not be so unkind.

    It does give you opportunity to ask questions, and there might be tidbits of facts that are presented along the way of discussions, that reading the manuals will not give, as well as discussion of what parts will or won't cross generations, or why parts were changed as they go. Pointing out how one part is different than another. Statistics passed out. Correct Glock way of doing things, not bubba's. I'm sure its a very fun class.

    There is much more than can be learned from you-tube or forum, which often is suspect information, and heavy on personal opinion, but low on fact.

    The downside is that whenever someone says they are a Certified GA, I want to turn off, and say "so What". The interpretation of info presented can be suspect too.
     
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    from another thread,
    funny how in an armorers class the guy that LEARNED IT ALL ON THE INTERNET would not shut up--
    did NOT pass the test and did not get certified
     
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    Now this is funny!!!! Yet part of me thinks you might have been serious here. I can’t watch his videos.


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    Pistolay Wut?

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    This is all exactly correct, and it was indeed the most satisfying day I've ever spent in a classroom.

    I certainly don't consider myself even in the same time zone as a gunsmith, but I am confident that I can tear my Glocks down to the last pin and put them back together the right way. It was worth it for me.
     
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    Some viewers of these videos report a strange urge to don a plaid suit and hang around used car lots.

    :D
     
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    They teach Glock's prescriptive procedures for basic maintenance.