What a difference the right ammo can make.

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  1. ReaPer105

    ReaPer105

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    Went to the range with my buddy today. Got the deer rifles ready to go and broke out the AR's. He has a new build 1 in 7 twist rate. He was getting 10" groups all over the place with some old Wolf 55 grain ammo he had. Horrible. High one time, low the next group, all over the paper. I thought it was him so I shot it. Still horrible.
    Broke out some Hornady 62 grain (the heaviest bullet either of us had) and man what a difference. He was getting 1" groups with that.
    My Ruger MPR shot a couple of 7 round 1" groups with some American Eagle 55 grain, all at 100 meters. I got off without my own Hornady 62 grain and I really wanted to try some. With my 1 in 8 twist, they should shoot great. They really made a huge difference in his gun.
     
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    I was going to suggest that maybe you were both horrible:D
     
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    Usually not, but I have the occasional off day.:innocent:
    I knew Wolf was not good but I believe bullet weight had as much to do with it. I'm not real experienced with AR's and was surprised at how much difference ammo could make in them.
     
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    My 6920 with 1 in 7 does not like 55 grain. Spreads it all out. My other rifles with 1 in 9 tend to put the 55 grain in an inch or under
     
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    What Wolf Ammo was this? I use Wolf Gold 55gr and it is pretty damn accurate
     
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    I remember way back when I bought my AR, in the 98 timeframe, I decided to buy a bag of some cheap reloads. The guy said it was Chinese ammo, but I didn't know they used 5.56. :freak:

    I was having a hard time hitting a paper plate-sized target at 100 yards, and was like, WTF??? I don't reload (want to learn!), and usually buy the same kind of ammo. I typically use Black Hills blue box match ammo in 5.56. With that, I can usually put three or four shots in the size of a quarter at 100 yards with the little 10 1/2" barrel on my AR and the cheapie NCStar scope, along with the obligatory flyer. Better shooters with better ammo will shoot better. Good ammo sure does make a difference. :flag:

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    SmokelessPowder Consummate Reloader

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    High twist rate can result in cheap bullets spinning too fast and coming apart in flight. I can shoot 52gr Sierras out of my 1 in 6.5 match rifle just fine.
     
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    Many years ago I shot some Wolf ammo and noticed it was moving at least 200 feet per second slower than cheap American ammo. It also was all over the place on velocity. None of it was fast but there was something like 100fps difference in a five shot group.
     
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    Ok if we’re talking Wolf we should specify if it’s steel case or Gold.

    My BCM 14.5” 1/7 shoots Wolf Gold 55 gr. just fine. I’ve not had great results with steel case. Seems to chrono all over the place, like Tula. But Wolf is just an importer, and while their Gold all comes from the Philippines their steel case can come from different places.

    Now different barrels can have a preference in bullet weight but 55 grain should shoot fine whether it’s 1/12 or 1/7. If you want to shoot for under 20 cents/round try some Brown Bear or the new RAS stuff made in Vympel, that’s good for steel case. I shoot a lot of steel case 6.5 Grendel, 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 but in .223 I stick to Wolf Gold or Federal for cheap bulk.