OK, I'm finally sold! Yesterday after shooting at the range, I stopped at a local outfit that sells police & tactical gear. This was on the advice of a buddy of mine. I ended up buying a nice leather gun belt by 5.11 Tactical, and I wore it today for the first time. Wow! I wore my usual full size M&P on the right, and a pocket pistol on the left, and not ONCE did I have to hike up my jeans! It was great! I am a believer now, and I intend to go back and get another one just like it in a different color.