What’s in small brown envelope

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  1. Jamaal

    Jamaal Sensai Pew Pew (Master of TRIGGERTHAICHI)

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    I purchased a Police Trade In and it came with everything except the lock, but I was wondering what’s in that small brown envelope, I haven’t opened and don’t know if I will open. Has anyone opened it before?
     
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    Why wouldn't you open it and look instead of asking everyone else?

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    Honestly don’t know if I wanted to resell it or not with everything in the box
     
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    This has to be a joke post.... its 2 fired casing and why would you open it?

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    your 1st glock??
     
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    Jamaal Sensai Pew Pew (Master of TRIGGERTHAICHI)

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    Yes that I’ve officially bought from store and not from a person.
     
  8. Bradley T

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    I didn't open mine either. Just a fired case that was also sent to some govt lab for future forensic examination.
    I am pretty dumb about ammo really, but with mass-produced factory ammo fired through mass-produced factory pistols, how many pistols out of a thousand could you clearly differentiate from the others with such examinations as that Fed crime lab performs? Just case dimensions, rifling dimensions engraved in a pair of bullets, firing pin depressions in caps? How far could it really be narrowed down with all the GLOCKs in the US? Manufacturers in this world are way proud of consistency, repetition, repeated minimal tolerance variation. I just don't see how clear cut comparing a bullet dug out of some poor victim and one out of one of those tanks at the crime lab could be that no-reasonable-doubt conclusive.
     
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    Bradley,

    The envelope includes only the cartridge case, not a fired bullet, so even less useful than the State of Maryland thought it was. :cool:
     
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    I had someone tell me here on GT that they are called "proofs" to secure the fact that the pistol is capable of shooting actual bullets without any problems.

    So far ---- I have not opened mine either - I have quite enough empty casings to satisfy my own "proof" of product.

    This may be one of those things like the labels on pillows and chairs -
    DO NOT REMOVE THIS TAG UNDER PENALTY OF LAW.
    Psssssst! I may be a felon by now - I remove tags all the time ---- but ----

    I DO NOT OPEN SEALED BULLET CASING ENVELOPES.
     
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    Are you sure that little envelope isn't yellow?
    I've never seen a brown one..
    Color Blind?
     
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    NYS law for many years required those fired casings to go to the state police lab, and not given out to the consumer.

    It is my understanding that they never solved a case (no pun intended) with it :)
     
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    Also makes me scratch my head because an aftermarket barrel would obviate any utility of the fired casing repository.
     
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    Dang, tough crowd.
     
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    Or even simpler, some one performing some artistic changes to the FP, chamber and barrel would render this farce even more farcial.
     
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    Typical liberal stupidity about how things work.
     
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    I reloaded mine.
     
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    I think they finally realized it was a waste of time. The last new Glock I bought did not have the envelope in it. I assume they dropped this practice.
     
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    The case has nothing to do with the barrel. The case shows unique marks from being pushed back into the back wall of the slide during firing, and unique extractor and ejector markings. Changing the barrel doesn't affect those markings.
     
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    Not really, most of the markings on a spent case are imparted by the bolt face, firing pin, and extractor.

    An aftermarket slide or other parts would likely affect these, but I don't think a barrel would.

    FWIW the whole idea is dumb which is why you still get the case in almost all states, rather than it going to some repository.
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    "This cartridge case shows the three distinct marks, or 'signatures,' impressed on its surface when it was fired by a gun: the firing pin impression (FP), the breech face impression (BF) and the ejector mark (EM)."
    https://www.nist.gov/news-events/ne...t-ballistic-standard-helps-tie-guns-criminals