We're back. You weren't being ignored but George & I were having difficulty getting onto the forum. We're all set now though, new password and some instructions on how to get around. Takes us a while when things change. Guess that's a sign of old age..................... Our time has not been wasted. George has pretty much finished up things on the "TICHBOURNE" grinder that he is building to sell to hobbyists and other knifemakers. I've been checking out all the magazine and giveaways that we are involved in. GlockTalk Forum starts us off with 2 knives being given away. GOOD LUCK to ALL !!!