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Weapon Light - Glock, Surefire or Streamlight

Discussion in 'General Glocking' started by Braden, Jan 28, 2007.

  1. Braden

    Braden

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    I'm considering purchasing a weapon light to go on the rail of my G22 that I can slide on the gun when it goes into the safe for the night.

    Of the three listed below, I'm looking for opinions on which one is the brightest, most durable and best value.

    Glock Tactical Light

    Available for $95 from TeamGlock.com and $89.95 from Lone Wolf. I haven't found anything that tells much about this light as far as brightness is concerned.

    Surefire X200B

    An LED light available from Surefire for $275. I thought they used to have a non-LED weapon light but there isn't one shown. Having owned Surefire lights (a 6P and a G2 Nitrolon) I know they are good lights, but are they worth $275??

    Streamlight M3

    Available from Lone Wolf for $119.95. I don't know much about Streamlight, but the M3 seems to offer a few features that the Glock light doesn't for an additional $30. I have a friend who is an Austin police officer who carries the M3 on his G21 and he really likes it.

    Based on price alone, I'm pretty much ruling the Surefire out. Any thoughts on the Glock light or Streamlight?
     
  2. wotblake

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    The streamlight TLR1 is as good as the surefire for 100 bucks.
     

  3. Braden

    Braden

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    What is the difference between the M3 and the TLR-1?? And who sells them?
     
  4. wotblake

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    The TLR1 is solid metal and uses a LED instead of a fragile incan bulb. It's similar to the surefire.

    Lots of places sell them. I got mine cheap off ebay.
     
  5. Braden

    Braden

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    Thanks for pointing that one out to me. I found one place that has it for $110. That seems like a good price for an 80 lumen LED weapon light. Much cheaper than the Surefire and probably better than the M3 or the Glock light.
     
  6. SilverState

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    Sounds like you just want it for home use. The Glock light will be good enought for that. However, if you are using it for work or in case of a SHTF situation, the Surefire is a better light.

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  7. Braden

    Braden

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    Nice pictures.

    Yes, this would be strictly for home use. I have no doubt that the Surefire is a high quality light, but I could buy two of any one of the others and have one for each of my guns for the price of a Surefire. ;)

    I really like what I've seen of the TLR-1.
     
  8. ibedanny

    ibedanny Big Member ;P

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    I have a TLR-1. It's a sweet light. Only Draw back I got was wear on top of the finish where muzzle blast hits with my XD service.
     
  9. Glockerstein

    Glockerstein Mabuhay Shalom!

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    Surefire all the way.

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    Surefire makes the other two look like MAG lights.
     
  10. rook442

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    The Streamlight is the best bang for the buck. I have over a half a dozen Streamlight lights and I've never had a problem with any of them.
     
  11. G19cPH

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    Surefire is my vote.
     
  12. ibedanny

    ibedanny Big Member ;P

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    Has the muzzle flash worn out your finish? my TLR-1 mounts just in front.
     
  13. auto40cal

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    I like and would prefer the Insight Technology M3 light and for the money you cant beat it. The ITech plastic polymer finish matches Glocks polymer frames very nice,Low profile and produces 90 lumens. I picked it up brand new for 85.00 shipped. Used only For a Home Defense weapon, This is the way to go in my opinion.

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  14. sullygoarmy

    sullygoarmy Glockaholic

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    I've got both the Streamlight TLR-1 and 2 along with the surefire X200A. The TLR-1 is a good value for the money. If the bulb isn't an LED light (like the glock light), I'd stay away from it. LED bulbs will not burn out and are alot more resistant to breakage than a typical xenon bulb. When you consider the forces of recoil occuring right above where the light bulb is, I consider this to be of extreme importance.

    Here's my read on the Streamlight versus the surefire. The streamlight is a great value for the price. LED light, lightweight and (I think) a slightly better switch than the surefire. However, I have had problems with the TLR-1 on my Glock 23. I've had a couple failure to feeds when firing with the TLR-1 light on. This has happened only on my G23, not my G17 or 19.

    The TLR-2 adds a laser to the light and is a very effective "home gun" platform if you want a visible laser on your weapon.

    The Surefire is about as bombproof as you can make a tactical light, with the price to prove it. I'm a surefire addict and love the overconstruction of their light. Its bright, has I slightly better throw (in my opinion) and has more options available such as the slim line or dev group switch. Its smaller than the TLR-1 and a bit more "streamlined" in terms of its overall design. Additionally, I've never had any issues with the surefire x200 on any of my Glocks...even the G23 which struggled with the TLR-1 on it.

    Hope this helps. Check out the "sights, optics and lasers" section of GT. Lots of good discussions there on the same topic. No matter which light you end up buying, be sure to test fire it to see how the weapon feels and performs with a tac light attached!
     
  15. Alaskapopo

    Alaskapopo NRA ENDOWMENT

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    I have a Glock light for sale for $70. Its only lightly used looks new. I sent you an emial.
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  16. Braden

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    Thanks for all of the feedback so far. I had pretty much ruled out the Surefire due to price alone, but some of your comments have me reconsidering.

    Just a question. Glockerstein said the Surefire makes the others look like a Mag light. The Surefire X200B says it is a 100 lumen light. The Streamlight TLR-1 says it is an 80 lumen light.

    My Surefire 6P and G2 are both 60 lumen lights and they seem plenty bright to me. Given that, I think either of the two noted above would be brighter than what I have. That is, unless LED lumens are somehow different from incandescent lumens (I've never used an LED light).

    Thoughts?
     
  17. JasonC8301

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    Lumens are lumens. The color temperature is just different from incandescent to LED's. I believe incandescents do better in the outdoors where you have to deal with street lights, trees, and sometimes mist/dew. LED's are more on the HID side of the spectrum and to me don't cut through fog/smoke as well as incandescents and do not offer the color rendition of the browns and greens (trees and dirt.)

    Surefire tends to underestimate their starting lumen rating. 60 lumens is probably what the light puts out ~20 minutes into the run time (assuming the P60 bulb in the G2/6P.) There is also a difference in bulb lumens versus output lumens. A bulb can put out 80 lumens but through reflector design, lens material, and heat loss/efficiency, it can be in the area of 60 lumens out the front end.

    I have a Surefire P101 in possession but it is too large for its purpose and you need to mount the Surefire rail onto a railed or unrailed Glock to put the light onto the gun. I carry my gun at work concealed so the Surefire light (Nitrolon and Military series) is out of the question. Surefire has also choose to discontinue their military and nitrolon series. They are concentrating / pushing the X200 series. Surefire has not told me if they are planning on releasing a smaller Glock rail'd incandescent light.

    I just skip the light mounted on the gun and carry a Surefire G2Z on my opposite hip. Soemtimes you just need a light and don't want to point a loaded gun at a innocent person/non-threat.

    A few friends have the TLR-2 and they love it. So I can say this and that, but it comes down to you trying them and seeing which one you like. The question is, how much is your life worth to you? In the end all these things are just tools to save your life, not expensive safe queens. I have no worries dropping mags (well I do not treat my home defense mags the same as training mags), flashlights, and I try to keep weapons retention but sometimes during transitions something happens (ie whoops.)
     
  18. nova

    nova Got Glock?

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    I just got a TLR-1 for my G30. It is fantastic. 60 lumens is more than enough, especially for home defense, 100 lumens, that's just straightup power, who wouldn't love it, but my oppinion is that 80 lumens is just right, for any tactical situation that might arise. Has those high resistent LED's that you can't beat. Lasts long enough. I originally had a Surefire x200A and ended up exchanging it for a TLR-1 because the TLR actually looks slicker IMO. Bottom line... any one of the lights mentioned by all the posters will do its job with no problems. I think the the TLR-1 is the best overall.

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  19. Skintop911

    Skintop911 Uber-Practical

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    Lots of previous threads on those lights. Some excellent comparisons and technical data by the light gurus over at Candlepowerforums.

    The Surefire is my first choice of those three. The Glock light thereafter. I wouldn't even consider the M3, but if you're going to use it only on an emergency basis, it's failings may never manifest.

    The TLR-1 I abused was excellent, and a worthy competitor for the Surefire.
     
  20. adamsesq

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    Before you make any final decision make sure you give Tommy at www.smartgunner.com a call. I was in the same boat you are a few weeks ago. I started with a blank slate in my mind about what I wanted (other than a light.) Tommy was a huge help in me figuring out what I wanted, he had really good prices and he supports glocktalk!

    Not that it means you will to but I ultimately decided to REALLY take the plunge and ended up with a M6X light/laser combo. I was just afraid of trying to add laser later, started looking at "only $100 more and can't get a good laser for that, etc..."

    Good luck and let us know what you decide!

    -Scott