Wasn't Expecting This From Florida

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  1. wyntrout

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    Somehow, we wound up with a Commissioner of the Florida Dept. of Agriculture who is anti-gun... and she is the one that runs the Concealed Weapons program here in Florida... crazy.
    The State's laws have eminence over local laws, thankfully, but she's been trying to restrict us.
    We're still have reciprocal agreements with 36 states, making 37 with our own.
    Of course, my daughter has to live in Illannoy, but I can CC there inside my car. :D
     
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    it shows NJ in yellow as being able to be licensed to open carry, that is BS, NJ is one of the strictest States around not too far behind NYC
     
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    the Mouse isn't a State
     
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    I have heard this a lot but I literally have never seen a person OC in Michigan or anywhere else. I personally don’t get OC if you have a permit. If I have a ccw I’m carrying concealed and would have zero reason to OC. This is just my personal opinion and I’m not making a total blanketing statement including everyone but I think A LOT of OC is just about look at me rather than anything else.


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  5. IamtheNRA

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    They don't want to get robbed, and OC strongside is the quickest deploy.
     
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    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    She's also dropped the review time for CCW from 88 days to 25 days before all this virus crap hit. She has also stated that she will continue to issue CCW cards even if a citizen has a medical marijuana card. Most of the anti-2A stuff she's been accused of was started before she was in office. I'm not aware of what she has done that makes her the most anti-2A DeptAg that the NRA has labeled her. Do you have any links to more info?
     
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    Heh...when I moved to FL and got my first CWFL, it was signed by Charles Bronson. :D
     
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    Evidently NJ allows OC with a FOID according to this. I left NJ in 1983 so I can't comment further.

    https://lawcenter.giffords.org/open-carry-in-new-jersey/

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    Open Carry in New Jersey
    Last updated October 28, 2019.


    New Jersey law does not explicitly prohibit the open carry of a handgun in public if the possessor has a valid permit to carry a handgun.1

    New Jersey allows the open carry of long guns (i.e. rifles and shotguns) if the possessor has a valid Firearms Purchaser Identification Card.2 New Jersey prohibits any person from knowingly possessing a loaded long gun, with certain exceptions.
     
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    So, in NJ, you can open carry a long gun as long as it's not loaded?
     
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    They are safer than way.

    ;)


    I tried to get to the footnote to see what the" certain exceptions " were, but no luck.

    Any current NJ citizens that can comment ?


    EDIT: Found this

    New Jersey allows the open carrying of a long gun with a proper permit. N.J. Rev. Stat. § 2C:39-5(c).
     
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    I don't know; I think it has a pretty good shot this time around.
     
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    I suspect that one of us is going to be wrong.
     
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    Ah, the old insult comeback. Clever.
     
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    Barring something really weird, no business wants to be robbed. My point was that even though it would be legal in Florida for any business owner and the employees of said business to open carry, the only place I've ever seen it is in gun stores and pawn shops.
     
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    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    When we have a pro 2A sheriff and county committee AND a Democrat supporting the bill?


    Better than average chance is the right answer.
     
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    She is or was being sued for closing down ccw processing, including online, and she has actively tried to stop a law that would allow punishing local lawmakers for passing local gun control laws. Other than those two things, she seems to be doing a-ok.
     
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    That's about, what, maybe 10 people?. We haven't heard from the other 65 or so county commissions or sheriffs. There is really no compelling argument to allow open carry for folks who are already permitted to carry concealed. Last time around, we got a change to the law that says it isn't a violation if the gun is momentarily exposed which crippled part of the argument.
     
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    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Most government shut down due to the virus. Best I can tell she opened up an office and an internet portal to keep things moving along.

    She can't stop a law that doesn't exist and requires a constitutional amendment to change.

    Only knife laws can be changed by locality as common knives don't consist as weapons whereas firearms do. Pretty sure that was the attempt. Not positive.
     
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    syntaxerrorsix Anti-Federalist CLM

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    Maybe you haven't noticed but the vast majority of the country has open carry.

    Not a huge issue to fight. Really no compelling reason to fight it in a gun loving state.
     
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    If we were all that gun loving, we'd have constitutional carry (a misnomer, but that's what it's called). We also wouldn't have a red flag law or a minimum age of 21 for purchasing rifles. Don't give the legislature more credit than they deserve.