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Hey Guys!

So my in-laws want to take us (the Mrs., my daughter, and myself) to Walt Disney World for the special Christmas event that they do there called "Mickey's Very Merry Christmas". I think it will be a great experience and my daughter will have a lot of fun, but I have one main concern - Walt Disney World is a "gun free zone". We only live an hour or two away, so carrying there and back is no issue since I'll be driving, but carrying in the park is the tricky part.

I usually ignore gun free zones, unless carrying there is prohibited by law (i.e. post office, courthouse, etc.), and would do the same here except we have an issue...Disney implemented metal detectors a little while back. Now from my understanding, they don't scan everyone but randomly select people to go through the metal detectors, so there's a chance that I could be selected "at random".

With how the world is today, and the recent tragic terrorist attacks (including the horrific shooting at Pulse nightclub in Orlando), I'm extremely hesitant to go into the park without a firearm. On the other hand, if I'm "caught" exercising my right to protect my family, then I could be asked to leave and the night would be over before it even starts. My only option that's not detectable is a non-metallic knife (made of ceramic, plastic, etc.), bit I don't feel that this cuts it for a primary self defense weapon...

What are your thoughts? Would you try to carry into Walt Disney World if you were in my situation?

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If it has an aggressive bezel I could seem them snagging it. Not a bad idea though.

Realistically, if someone opens up in an area like WDW with a rifle, a pistol isn't going to be much good. Especially if the rifle has the element of surprise.
 

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If it has an aggressive bezel I could seem them snagging it. Not a bad idea though.

Realistically, if someone opens up in an area like WDW with a rifle, a pistol isn't going to be much good. Especially if the rifle has the element of surprise.
You will be helped by the 5k people all running in circles in panic. Use the screen and get away.
 

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I carried to Disney several years ago for Very Merry and honestly I felt pretty uncomfortable with my weapon on me. I just couldn't relax... Took all the Disney Magic out of things. Orange County S.O. usually has a deputy in each theme park and Disney has incredible video surveillance to complement their uniformed security guards (who most visitors don't even notice). Since then I leave things in their capable hands and enjoy myself, taking note of the nearest exit.
 

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Everyone must make Decisions...and everyone is entitled to take chances...

But...when they strike... they strike hard and fast...They dont care about Metal Detectors or Infidel "PC" rules...Its a one way ticket with Them...

Myself...dont go anywhere without being prepared ...If there is a metal detector ..I dont go there..

We live in strange times...spin the wheel and take your chance...If You must...







 

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If it has an aggressive bezel I could seem them snagging it. Not a bad idea though.

Realistically, if someone opens up in an area like WDW with a rifle, a pistol isn't going to be much good. Especially if the rifle has the element of surprise.
''Realistically, if someone opens up in an area like WDW with a rifle, a pistol isn't going to be much good.''

If you really believe that you need to do some more shooting, not
at five yards, try 50 to 100 yards, most pistols will hit a one foot circle most of the time at 100 yards if you are up to it.

That is only a three inch group at 25 yards.
 

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''Realistically, if someone opens up in an area like WDW with a rifle, a pistol isn't going to be much good.''

If you really believe that you need to do some more shooting, not
at five yards, try 50 to 100 yards, most pistols will hit a one foot circle most of the time at 100 yards if you are up to it.

That is only a three inch group at 25 yards.
He's Operator as F... I'm sure he's good on training....

As for me, i'll take Pistol vs. Rifle all day long over Nothing vs. Rifle...
 

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More folks have been killed from airplane hijackers than shootings at Amusement Parks. I still get on planes unarmed. Live dangerously and go to WDW for one day unarmed.
 

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I was thinking at a minimum of carring a non-metallic knife like one of these. I habe a small LGS that sells stuff like this, and they do knife sharpening in house so I can get it razor sharp.


 

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If it is illegal to carry in the mouse world, why risk getting arrested and ruining your family's trip with having to bail you out.

I'm not in Florida and don't know the law but if getting arrested is an option decide to not go there or don't carry.
 

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If it is illegal to carry in the mouse world, why risk getting arrested and ruining your family's trip with having to bail you out.

I'm not in Florida and don't know the law but if getting arrested is an option decide to not go there or don't carry.
In Florida, it's not illegal. The worst that could happen is they find it and ask me to leave. If I refuse to leave (which I would not refuse), then I'm trespassing with a firearm which is a felony.
 

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Trouble is, if you're selected for screening, it's going to be very awkward. They may tell you to lock it in the car. They make a scene out of it and have a deputy escort you off the property.

Universal has gone "full airport" with all guests walking though metal detectors and bags being x-rayed. I keep wondering when Disney is going to do the same.

If there's an attack at either of these places, I'd expect it to be at the entrance, outside the security checkpoint. The bottleneck they've created at Universal would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Hundreds of people densely packed waiting to get through security.

I've carried in both places, but with the heightened security checks, I wouldn't try that anymore. Universal wouldn't let me in recently with the smallest size Swiss Army knife (forgot not to take it, had to go back to the car to put it away). Disney let me in a few months ago with a SOG Flash I, but only after the screener called a supervisor for a decision on it, and I bet they wouldn't let it pass anymore.
 

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If it is illegal to carry in the mouse world, why risk getting arrested and ruining your family's trip with having to bail you out.

I'm not in Florida and don't know the law but if getting arrested is an option decide to not go there or don't carry.
It is not illegal. They can kick you out and ban you from coming back but you have not violated FL law. Of course getting tossed and family loosing the money spent might be more than bail would have been.
 

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Trouble is, if you're selected for screening, it's going to be very awkward. They may tell you to lock it in the car. They make a scene out of it and have a deputy escort you off the property.

Universal has gone "full airport" with all guests walking though metal detectors and bags being x-rayed. I keep wondering when Disney is going to do the same.

If there's an attack at either of these places, I'd expect it to be at the entrance, outside the security checkpoint. The bottleneck they've created at Universal would be like shooting fish in a barrel. Hundreds of people densely packed waiting to get through security.

I've carried in both places, but with the heightened security checks, I wouldn't try that anymore. Universal wouldn't let me in recently with the smallest size Swiss Army knife (forgot not to take it, had to go back to the car to put it away). Disney let me in a few months ago with a SOG Flash I, but only after the screener called a supervisor for a decision on it, and I bet they wouldn't let it pass anymore.
The random screening is the gamble here. I'd hate to have that awkward encounter if I were to be selected, but would also hate feeling unarmed if I decided not to carry and wasn't selected for screening.
 
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