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  1. 9MX

    9MX Rei!

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    Strict enforcement of gun ban vowed


    By Jerome Aning, Alcuin Papa
    Inquirer
    Last updated 01:14am (Mla time) 12/21/2006

    Published on page A1 of the December 21, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

    AMID fears of an upsurge of political violence, Commission on Elections Chair Benjamin Abalos yesterday announced that the Comelec would strictly implement the firearms ban during the coming election period.

    “Only law enforcers such as the police as well as the military will be allowed to carry guns during the election period from Jan. 14 to June 13,” Abalos told reporters.

    “We won’t even give exemptions to private bodyguards,” he told reporters.

    The Comelec will be stringent in enforcing the firearms ban and work not just for the filing of charges against the violator but also for the disqualification of the candidate which the violator is affiliated with, he said.

    Abalos said that the murder of Abra Rep. Luis Bersamin on Saturday and the earlier death threats against Representatives Prospero Nograles and Robert “Dodot” Jaworski Jr. did not necessarily mean that the May elections would be violent.

    “The police have yet to determine if these cases are politically motivated so we should not just say that the next elections would be violent,” he said.

    Also, the attacks on and threats to lawmakers cannot justify proposals that politicians and their supporters should begin arming themselves, said Abalos.

    “Such predictions [of election-related violence], for me, will only provoke and alarm political leaders and their supporters,” he said.

    Under election laws, the police would make the proper recommendations to Comelec whether a locality should be placed on a watch list or branded as a “hot spot” during the election period.

    Security for lawmakers

    The Constitution gives the Comelec wide powers to deputize the police to keep peace and order in areas where there are potential outbreaks of violence.

    Close to 70 lawmakers had requested additional police security, citing threats to their lives even before the Bersamin slaying, said Senior Supt. Romeo Hilomen, chief of the Philippine National Police Security and Protection Office (PSPO).

    Hilomen said around 60 congressmen and seven senators were provided protection by his office.

    The lawmakers included Speaker Jose de Venecia and Senate President Manuel Villar, who Hilomen said the PNP was obligated to protect under the law, Senators Miriam Defensor-Santiago, Panfilo Lacson, Luisa “Loi” Ejercito and Jamby Madrigal.

    Bersamin himself had requested additional police security around four months ago.

    “The threats to (their) lives were validated by our intelligence group,” Hilomen told reporters.

    He explained that the threats on the legislators emanated from their personal, business and political affairs.

    ‘High-risk’ politician

    Hilomen said the number of additional police security assigned to the lawmakers would depend on the level of the threat they were facing.

    If the threat to their lives is high, additional police security could range from two to four, he said.

    Hilomen acknowledged that Bersamin had three PSPO policemen as bodyguards because he was considered a “high-risk politician.”

    But at the wedding of his niece at Mt. Carmel Church in Quezon City on Saturday where he was killed, Bersamin apparently did not bring his PSPO staff, said Hilomen.

    He said that despite the murder of Bersamin, no lawmaker had asked for additional police security.

    The PSPO has more than 2,000 policemen under the command of Hilomen. He said the policemen had been given assignments ahead of the 2007 elections.

    If he thinks the number is not enough, Hilomen said he could ask for more men.

    For local politicians, PNP regional offices are tasked with acting as their security.

    Task force

    PNP Director General Oscar Calderon also announced yesterday the creation of Task Force HOPE (Honest, Orderly, Peaceful Elections) in an attempt to minimize if not eliminate violence in next year’s elections.

    Calderon said the task force would be headed by Deputy Director General Antonio Billones, deputy chief for operations. One of its primary concerns would be to enforce the firearms ban beginning next month.

    “I have directed Regional Directors to start applying for search warrants to raid houses of persons reportedly possessing loose firearms,” Calderon said.

    He added that policemen manning checkpoints would be strict and search motorcycle riders riding in tandem, a common modus operandi used in murders and political killings.

    Ang Kapatiran

    Also yesterday, Nandy Pacheco, gun control advocate and secretary general of Ang Kapatiran political party, called for the immediate enactment of a total gun ban in public places, saying this would be “the best possible Christmas gift of the President and members of both houses of Congress to the Filipino people.”

    Pacheco said the gun ban law should include a stiff penalty for its violation—reclusion temporal or from 12 to 20 years imprisonment with no pardon or parole. He said there should also be a ban on tinted windows on motor vehicles whether public or private for the common good.

    He said only police, military personnel and licensed private security guards in uniform and on duty should be allowed to carry guns in public places.

    “There should be no more exemptions, otherwise, the gun ban becomes a farce,” said Pacheco, noting that the gun ban takes effect on Jan. 14 at the start of the May election period.
     
  2. wingz

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  3. Kiddo

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    Is Pacheco for real?? When will people learn that gun bans will never work since criminals don't follow them anyway! I bet the people behind Rep. Bersamin's killing don't even have registered firearms, let alone they follow a gun ban! :brickwall: :burn:
     
  4. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    e anu nmn paki natn kasi sa mga politiko mas matino naman tau da kanila di ba ala naman tau hinharas pag nafifiring tau diba

    wawa naman mga peaceful gun owners

    they should look for loose FA nt us
     
  5. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    e anu nmn paki natn kasi sa mga politiko mas matino naman tau da kanila di ba ala naman tau hinharas pag nafifiring tau diba

    wawa naman mga peaceful gun owners

    they should look for loose FA nt us
     
  6. Kaiser Soze

    Kaiser Soze Notorious

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    CRIMINALS USE STOLEN,LOOSE, AND SOMETIMES IMPROVISED GUNS!!! WHAT GOOD IS KEEPING LEGALLY LISCENSED AND REGISTERED FIREARMS HOME?!?!

    I edited this because my initial reaction was bit more emotional than well thought out...sorry guys.
     
  7. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    grabe kaiser

    iln kya body gurds ng mga mokong n yn nd ilan kya loose fa sa mga baril nila

    daya nila
     
  8. darth board

    darth board steel killer

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    si nandy pacheco? matagal nang bobo yun! bakit ba pinipilit nya sa atin yung gusto nya? kung anti gun sya manahimik na lang sya e kung ipagpilitan kaya natin sa kanya na magfiring sya every week magugustuhan kaya nya? o kaya lagyan natin ng progun stickers yung kotse nya? live and let live.
     
  9. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    kung ayaw nya eh di wag sya magdala ng gun hehe

    i think pag nakasama ng mga bogs yan sa range magiiba na yan
     
  10. Kaiser Soze

    Kaiser Soze Notorious

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    Riddle me this fellow BOG members...

    Let's say I get held up or (God Forbid) killed in non-election related violence, sasagutin ba ng Police o Comelec ang pamilya ko?

    Wow...

    I can understand gunbans in strategic places during the campaign and election period, pero kung pupunta ka ng malayo ng mag-isa, na wala naman sa polling area, I think we should have the right to have personal protection! If your business is a high crime risk (money changer, pawnshop etc) you should be able to carry a firearm to protect yourself and your hardearned money!

    Not everyone can afford a bulletproof car, and last I checked, banks don't make pickups in their armored vans.

    Please, please, reconsider this silly policy...
     
  11. choi_tan2000

    choi_tan2000 BoG # 55555

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    thats the point they should ban gun of politicians

    nt the ordinary gun owners na di naman nakikialam sa politika.

    eh sa tottoo lang mas maraming politicians pa nakakakuha ng exemptions eh. they all have the reasons kuno and they are willing to give more money
     
  12. Wp.22

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    iba talaga ang utak ni tito nandy palihasa sa greenmeadows nakatira na sa sobrang strict na security eh matagal bago nahuli si gringo.

    tanong ko nga sa brother in-law ni pacheco bakit mainit sa baril yan bayaw mo, ang sagot ay wala daw makitang ibang pwedeng maging advocacy.

    isang beses nga pinagalitan ng uncle ko na pari si nandy dahil wala nga sa tama yung advocacy nya pati mrs. medyo inis na rin sa kanya dahil may plano na naman tumakbo sa susunod na election as senator gamit yung kapatiran party.

    tuwing nagkikita kami sa mga gathering kasama ng mga pinsan ko eh pinagtatawanan na lang namin siya.

    im not related to him yung mga pinsan ko ay uncle-inlaw nila sa mother side nila si nandy pacheco.
     
  13. Kiddo

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    Wp.22, have you tried talking to nandy na? Does he have logical points in his advocacy for a gunless society? Kasi when I talk to antigun people, most of their claims are baseless and only propaganda.

    I bet kung mag pursue talaga tayo mga responsible shooters and gun owners, we would be very strong in our cause.

    Marami naman diyan shooters na nasa influencial position, kulang lang ng initiative kumilos.
     
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    what qualifies him to make such comments? :steamed:

    :upeyes:
     
  15. gundog

    gundog senior gunner

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    good news my fellow boggers....:thumbsup:

    spoke today to bob sajot and capt tuliao and it seems na they will allow ppsa members exemption during the gun ban. reason being that there are qualifier matches till april or something to complete the phil team for the world shoot. lets hope na mag iba isip ni comm abalos. :banana: :supergrin:
     
  16. Punisher_nbi45

    Punisher_nbi45 R we der yet?

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    GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK!!! GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK!!! GUN CONTROL DOES NOT WORK!!!
     
  17. darwin25

    darwin25 Make your move

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    What possible benefit talking to Nandy Pacheco would do? None. AFAIC, people like Nandy Pacheco is just a total waste of time. Mas masarap pang tumae kesa makipagusap sa kanya.
     
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    a phrase comes to mind "sheep for Brains":thumbsup:
     
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    Gun control means using both hands Mr. Pacheco...
     
  20. jasonub

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    na edit ang "sheep" ko so pinalitan ko na lang:animlol: bawal pala sa forums yung "utak tae"