Vltor Fortis 10mm

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  1. JBJ16

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    Anyone here got their hands on one? How does it shoot and how much dothey retail, availability?

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    Thanks! But there isn't much in the thread about the pistol, how it performed shooting it, accuracy, pricing, availability (ie. review)

    Mostly magazine issues about the Witness pistol and the 10mm OAL issues.:dunno:
     
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    I would expect it to be like everything else VLTOR makes: excellent and expensive. I've never had a product from that company that was not superbly engineered and executed. I suspect that they're taking plenty of time on this pistol so that it lives up to that reputation.
     
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    Ok. Appreciate the update. :supergrin:
     
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    Not ready to go yet. I doubt we'll see them before 2011.







    Here's some pics of my original in the meantime. ;)


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    sigh...:tongueout:
     
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    The Fortis is supposed to ship May-June and MSRP is $1200. Only 2500 are to be produced for 2010. Check out the Vltor forum at www.bren-ten.com
     
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    Hope they built it to handle the orig Norma 180gr/1200fps loading, and not the downloaded 10mm (S&W) SAAMI short and weak:tongueout:
     
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    It makes ZERO sense that they would only build it to handle the castrated 10 loads.
     
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    True.

    It will handle the hottest loads.
     
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    I was just wondering since the original Bren Tens had reports of cracked slides using the original Norma loads hence the downloaded SAAMI max. 10mm currently available.
     
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    Are you guys saying that SAAMI lowered the 10mm max to 37,500psi? Do you have any links or information as to what it was before?

    I somehow missed a downloading? With the conversion from CUP to PSI a lot could have got by me...


    OR after re-reading the thread are you just saying that most 10mm is now loaded to 40 specs (35,000 PSI)
     
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    SAAMI max loadings are lower than the Original Norma 10mm, to what exact pressure loadings I'm not sure. IIRC from a gun rag years ago, the orig. Norma 10mm load equaled a hot 41 Magnum that's why it was unsuccessfully marketed as a police round because of too much recoil.
     
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    I'm on a list for two Vice Models, one in 10MM and the other in .45ACP. I have some of the Norma 10MM in 200gr and 170gr and they are hot. I don't plan on shooting any more of them and plan to stay with Silvertip type loads in the Bren 10MM. If I need 41Mag performance I have that covered by a S&W 58.
     
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    The whole point of this gun is to improve on the Bren Ten's shortcomings.

    There is no way Vltor is putting all that R&D into this pistol and have it not able to handle today's popular 10mm loads.
     
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    No doubt about the popular loads, was thinking more on the orig 10mm spec load before saami spec.:cool:
     
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    Having been one of the dumb schmucks who lost $500 on a Bren Ten I never got, back in the early 1980's when $500 was a LOT of money to a kid just out of college, this is a day late and a dollar short.

    More like 25 years late and $1,200 short.

    It won't do anything that a Glock G-20 won't do better. And you could buy a G-20, and a G-29 to back it up, for the price of one of these.
     
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    +1

    They've been saying over and over just how much they're addressing the shortcoming of the original Bren.

    Also, didn't Vltor get the rights to actually call it the Bren instead of the Fortis?