Video raises new questions in Trayvon Martin killing

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  1. Zell

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    Not taking a position here -- but, objectively -- Zimmerman didn't look like his head was bashed in very hard. His movement seemed to be normal for someone who took quite a beating. Makes me wonder just how bad he was really beaten up.
     
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    SC Tiger As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

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    Still need to be patient. Facts are still coming out. We don't know everything yet. Four hours is enough time to clean yourself up.

    Be patient and be careful, if you go into a major population center on the day any big news on this (such as if charges will be filed or a court verdict) are announced.
     
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    Out of curiosity, how much of a beating does one have to take before they can reasonably be in fear of their life especially if report are true that the person was telling them they were going to kill them while hitting them?

    -Dana
     
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    Some things to consider:

    1) How long after he beat did they get to the station?

    2) Did the medics do a competent job cleaning up his wounds?

    3) Does the video show close ups of his head? Especially the back?


    Just some things to take into account.
     
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    Most are supporting the "concept" of self defense...maybe not this exact case until all the facts are out.

    Someone could put you in a rear choke...and leave nothing that could be visible from a cctv camera. Too early to tell.

    Tried in the court of public opinion by a jury of your "peers". Good luck with that.
     
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    The video was taken after he was treated by EMS. I'd expect him to have a bolus of adrenaline going through his system that would mitigate some of the negative effects of having his head punched and bashed. It doesn't take long to stop the bleeding from a broken nose or from a cut/scrape/gash in the back of the head, but it can take time for swelling bruising and black eyes to show up. You can see the cop checking out the back of his head, and it appears the cop wipes his hands off several times after handling zimmerman, it's possible he had blood on them. I would be willing to bet that EMS gave zimmerman an icepack when they treated him which would further retard swelling. Come on people start thinking with your heads instead of emotions.
     
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    As more facts come out about this situation, it's more and more evident that no prosecution is going to take place.

    Probably for the best, considering that if there was a trial, and Z was cleared completely, we would probably see another LA riots type situation down in Florida, if not in multiple places.
     
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    Very true.
     
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    If he is not charged, riots are still likely.....
     
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    I have seen folks get puched in the face repeatedly and sustain a broken nose. After the clean-up they had localized "redness", but did not look beaten.
     
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    I don't agree. With no charges leading to a court case and an aquittal, this story will just slowly die out in both the media and in the public eye. Riots need a spark, and there would be none.

    And if riots were still likely, without a court case/aquittal, why haven't they already happened? This story isn't gonna get any bigger than it is right now without a court case.
     
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    I don't know, was he ever taken to a hospital? Or just straight to the police station.
     
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    BPP and other "concerned groups" would be your spark.....
     
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    Treated and released on scene by EMS. {He refused transport. Perhaps to speed along clearing things up?} Went tot eh ER the morning after.....

    IIRC
     
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    How? Who cares what the BPP do? What are they gonna do to start a riot?

    Sorry, don't see it happening.
     
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    So my question is....WTF is this getting so much attention?????

    Has nothing else happened in the USA for the last two weeks??

    -Dana
     
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    Well, they offered a "bounty" on his head already. Spike Lee caused an elderly couple to evacuate their home. School kids on a "walk out" tore up a store. Lots of stuff is already happening. I am sure the "peaceful" responses we have seen so far were only anomalies, though.
     
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    Because certain partisan groups have raised it to the level of a "crisis" by doing their shenanigans.
     
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