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Video of Chinese J-15 fighter and aircraft carrier ops..

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by bunk22, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. bunk22

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    They have the colored shirts and all on the deck. Looks like flying the ball till touchdown.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LSmpqAZ74&sns=fb"]J-15 take off and landing on board Liaoning - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    robin303 Helicopter Nut

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    I only believe half what that guy said. The other half is BS. :supergrin:
     

  3. EdTracker

    EdTracker GTDS Lifetime Member

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    I'll wager $20 on CGI or Photoshop
     
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    eagle359 Glock Fanboi

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  5. bunk22

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    You're serious? About which part? The SU-27, variants of, have been flying off the boat for a while, testing at least. I am a Navy carrier pilot, I see nothing CGI in there at all. If it is, those guys need a job in Hollywood!
     
  6. bunk22

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    Nope, they use a ski jump, effective it seems. Not cat issues, that's for sure. I have no idea how it effects the load out of a jet for launch.
     
  7. Drjones

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    1) The image by the reporters head at the beginning of the clip is absolutely photoshopped. This destroys the credibility of the entire story.

    2) I'll gladly defer to the real-world experts we have here on GT, but I've seen way too many clips of real carrier take-offs to believe that this one is real. No way the aircraft was moving fast enough.

    The landing looked good, but hey...Transformers looked pretty real too.
     
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    Is good to know we have new targets for our tomahawks...

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  9. Drjones

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    :supergrin:
    Aaaaaand, I spoke too soon. :)

    Thank you for your service!
     
  10. Billua

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    FAIL

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11/25/china-lands-first-jet-on-its-aircraft-carrier/
     
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    1) evidence?

    2) ski jump ramps reduce take off speed considerably. For instance, the Russian MiG-29 needs 140kts for a conventional takeoff, but only about 70kts using the ramp on their carrier. I would expect similar resutls with the J-15 (albeit a little faster due to weight of the J-15).
     
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    Cool video, interesting wheel stops they have instead of a cat, won't be surprised if they develop a catapult in the future just so they can catch and send planes out at the same time
     
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    Big deal. There are only two types of ships in the world's oceans... Submarines and targets.

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  15. raven11

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    Can't project power with a submarine like you can a aircraft carrier
     
  16. F14Scott

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    Completely real and believable. Nice passes, and the silhouette reminded me a lot of my beloved Turkey.

    But, deck running a jet off a ski jump and making day, perfect WX , zero sea state, Case 1 landings are a long way off from running actual carrier operations.

    The complexity in the latter is managing 70 aircraft, all packed on two decks and needing elevator runs, while they go through their maintenance cycles and breakages, changing missions, changing weather, changing seas, their ordinance, fueling, and servicing, and doing a takeoff and landing cycle about every 1+15.

    Anybody with enough money to throw at the problem could build a big deck and launch and recover a jet from it. It will take many, many years and a fundamental change in the way the Chinese empower their troops as decision-makers before their carrier is anything more than an experiment.
     
  17. bunk22

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    I think the linked article makes a very good point, which is that the Chinese don't necessarily need the planes and carrier to be at US levels of capability for it to be a potent tool regionally. Even if it's a fair-weather, limited-range, low-strike-weight asset, parking it and a half-dozen destroyers and a dozen fast missile boats in the area of a disputed island or other disputed zone absolutely changes the equation for any of their neighbors.

    I actually think US analysts may be underplaying the potential impact as China gets their ski-jump carrier up and running... as noted above, it's a LOOOOONG way to being ready to compete with the US, but there's also a LOT of places in the West Pacific where the level of capability they can reach in the next few years could be a game-changer if the US isn't directly involved.
     
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    willing to bet if we ever had a war with them the carrier would be sunk in less then 4 hours....:whistling:
    :shocked:
     
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  20. EdTracker

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    CGI is the peoples faces :p

    Don't you know that military analysts thought the Asian races can't fly because lack of balance from being carried on their mothers backs as infants...

    Not serious about that either.

    Seriously bunk22, as a naval aviator how could you NOT KNOW the limitations of a ski jump style carrier.