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Utoh? Az Legislature entertaining ammo "coding" (cartridging serial marking) bill?

Discussion in 'Grand Canyon Glockers' started by MB-G26, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. MB-G26

    MB-G26 Queen of Fail Lifetime Member

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    Haven't had a chance to read through all of it yet, just saw it noted on another board. Attached here in pdf format as direct DL from the azleg.gov site. "HB 2833"

    (partial quote/paste of text; sorry bout the line numbering at the far left edge - paste from pdf document)

     
  2. Doc Holliday

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    This is such a joke it isn't funny. Obviously whoever wrote this piece of garbage knows NOTHING about guns. 25b will be a physical impossibility most of the time.

    They're going to need a bigger bullet to engrave these numbers onto, the serial numbers are going to get big QUICK. And what happens when the ammo is resold to another user?

    This bill is a useless waste of time.
     

  3. jaws48

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    Is this something like they passed in CA?
     
  4. Daryl in Az

    Daryl in Az Enjoying life!

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    No. The microstamping bill in California dictates that all handguns have a microstamped number on the firing pin and chamber that will mark the case of any catridge fired from it. It's easily filed off, or changed from changing a barrel and/or firing pin.

    The Az bill would require a unique serial number on each cartridge, which is pretty rediculous. The numbers would get large quick, and there's only so much room on a bullet to engrave a number.

    It's basically a plan to ban ammunition, since no manufacturer produces the proposed ammo.

    Daryl
     
  5. lordjim_2001

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    It's also a plan to make the one company that makes the engraving tools lots of money. It's shady in two ways people.
     
  6. jaws48

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    Thanks...guess we'd better get busy and start writing to everyone we can at the statehouse!
     
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    SlammedDime G23 Member

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    Our Gov may be a democrat, but I can't see her passing something like this piece of garbage.
     
  8. cactusman

    cactusman Ammo Squirrel

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    A few years ago something like this would never have even been considered in this state. :steamed:
     
  9. jaws48

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    Any idea which of our legislators is sponsoring this POS?
     
  10. Sam Spade

    Sam Spade Staff Member Lifetime Member

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    I just found out about this proposed bill in another forum. It's important for all Arizona residents to contact their representatives immediately! I will be on the phone first thing tomorrow!
     
  12. jaws48

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    Sam,
    Thanks for the link. Interesting to see the kind of bills these 5 sponsor....most look to be "feel good bills" that will get in the tax payers pocket!
     
  13. Lone_Wolfe

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    This id the most asinine, rediculous bill I think I've ever seen! :steamed: