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Utah gun enthusiast kills girlfriend, child, and himself

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Zell, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. Zell

    Zell IrregularMember

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    I don't see what he is alleged to have done has anything to do with his military service. Did I miss something?
     

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    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    Oh... the anti's will use this one for sure! Sadness all around.
     
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    I don't know that it has anything to do with what happened. It's mentioned in the news article and I question his background in the Marines. I get the feeling he was a wannabe Marine close quarters battle team operator and platoon designated marksman. Sounds like a fantasy he had.
     
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    Just a gut reaction. Smells fishy to me. Although it may be true. We'll see.
     
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    It seems to me when a former Marine commits a crime of any type the fact that they were a Marine comes up, not sure why that is.

    Sad story for sure.
     
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    Not sure either other than it seems like a lot of former military folks do some tragic/wacky things like this compared to other "professional" categories. I guess there is an exception for people who work at U.S. postal service.

    Maybe it's because they have extensive weapon training.
     
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    Not sure, I was in the USMC from 87-91 and I have been very aware of it ever since. I think it has something to do with the public mystique about the Corps, something to add (be it good or bad) a identifying "trait" to the person in the story. :dunno:
     
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    Well, it's not hard to figure. Someone who is accustomed to killing (and frequently rewarded for it) probably wouldn't consider it such a big deal.
     
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    Because Marines are always portrayed as alien-killing badasses in movies. Anyways, very tragic.
     
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    I'm with you on this one. I wish we had a note or something. SOMETHING indicating his propensity to do such a thing. Not that I can fully explain my views, in acft I can't, just a 'gut feeling' we aren't getting and may never get the whole story here.
     
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    We can thank Lee Harvey Oswald for that one.
     
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    Could be, not sure how the media treated it before him.

    "Well, it's not hard to figure. Someone who is accustomed to killing (and frequently rewarded for it) probably wouldn't consider it such a big deal"

    Not sure I would agree with that at all.
     
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    his professional self description does sound a little exaggerated. who knows as of now.
     
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    charles whitman came to my mind first. Just saying...
     
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    As someone who's "Been There, Done That", I direly beg to differ with you on that.

    We are NOT rewarded for killing another human being. A few nutcases who are .MIL on this forum see killing as no big deal, but I can assure you, their moral and psychological compass is ****ed up.
     
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