USN MK-48 mod-7 torpedo

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  1. Tomcat1977

    Tomcat1977 Unapologetic Deplorable.

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    The worlds best torpedo has just gotten better with the Mod-7 upgrade kits being delivered to the fleet and new MK-48s being built. Why is this heavy torpedo so good?

    The Mod-7 upgrade will make it very, very smart and once it gets its hooks into you your chances of escape are pretty small. Its also very fast, unofficially at least 63 mph and its range is upwards of over 25 miles. Its very quiet and its on top of the enemy before he can effectively react and the MK-48 is far more maneuverable then a submarine is.

    We are late to the party with these super cavitating SKVAL type torpedo's for a good reason. While 200 mph is fast its not that fast and once the torpedo starts turning and leaves its cavitation bubble is becomes very unstable and cant keep up with a very quiet USN boat. The sensors on the SKVAL are not only not as good but they are far less effective at those speeds. Basically the super cav fish are only good in a straight line and they are easily detected because they are so noisy. They are also more susceptible to counter measures.

    But not the MK-48. Also the MK-48 uses the very stable OTTO-ll that is also safer to store then the chemical cocktails driving these Russian super cav fish. I'd say just ask the survivors of the Kursk submarine about that but there aren't any survivors.

    With a 650lb class warhead designed to blow under the hull of a surface ship, or close to a enemy submarine, and with a max depth of somewhere near 2,600', the MK-48 M-7 can not be fooled or out ran, out dove, or out smarted. It will be replaced by an even deadlier new fish in the decades to come fired out of a SSN(X) already on the drawing boards that will draw heavily on tech already proven in the 3 Seawolf class SSNs.

    Its a very,very,very,very good torpedo.
     
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    It’s kind of weird to post that out of the blue about a torpedo that’s been out for a while.....


    Just get a defense review magazine or something?
     

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    Sounds great, but when was the last time a US ship fired a torpedo against an opposing foe? WW II?
     
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    The Mod-7 hasn't been "out for awhile". The kits are just now being delivered to the Navy and its a big improvement over earlier mods. Also, as well, the MK-48 assembly line has just been re-started using the improved tech based on the Mod-7 so its not very weird at all.

    No I didn't receive any magazine. Ive been watching this for awhile, re-starting the assembly line for a improved heavy torpedo is a big deal.
     
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    Interesting claim.

    They got used in a 2015 SINKEX.




    Source: https://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact_display.asp?cid=2100&tid=950&ct=2
     
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    https://www.defenseindustrydaily.co...-to-support-mk48-and-mk54-requirements-02533/

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/b...ys-old-weapon-just-keeps-getting-better-92386 I should have specified its an upgrade package to current Mod-7 MK-48s. Also we are restarting the production line with a greatly enhanced MK-48.

     
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    Interesting. That they are almost double the ammo storage. Plus the variety of weapons systems.

    I read a story where the sub launched 4 mark .48. (Older ones) at a slow speed to arc around, then moved and launched harpoon just after the torpedo so hit. Basicly a crossfire from one sub.

    Is listed test depth really 800'
     
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    Glad to see they restarted the assembly line. It was shut down for almost 23 years. Hope they have some skilled people to run it.

    The MK48 is sort of like the 1911 of torpedoes. The basic version works just fine but there have been little improvements here and there (better ammo, better sights, more accurate, etc.).

    With Ivan's boats snooping off of the East Coast lately it is nice to have something to cancel them out if necessary.

    PS: Anybody notice how our new submarines look like they are taking over the responsibilities of surface cruisers? Lots of cruise missiles.
     
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    Armory submarine just a concept as far as I know. We have the older 4 Ohio's that have been turned into SLCM platforms, Obama used one to bomb Libya to protect Europe's oil, eventually destablizing the country into armed tribes. One of which has Russian volunteers.

    Those 4 SSGN's have a shelf life and their missiles will be replaced by the new block Virginia's which will have two large launch tubes built vertical instead of the 12 and will be capable of launching 40 SLCM's and maybe a few thru their torpedo tubes. Its not the 154 of each of the Ohio SSGNs but a block order of 10 will make up for Losing 4 SSGN's which we'll eventually have to retire.
     
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    I have a hard time believing 2 modern ships can get within 25 miles of each other during a conflict. Unless its a ship made of reed and cattails and the more modern ship is not afraid of it.
     
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    Submarines are different. USN boats are very quiet and operate alone. They are designed in such a way to deflect sonar especially with the rubber type coatings on their exteriors. They are also able to hide under cold water layers in the water column should an active sonar be looking for them.

    Which is unusual. Most submarines operate using passive detection as do most submarine hunters on the surface and in the air. The problem with using sonar is you are telling the enemy exactly where YOU are so passive systems are preferred. The MK-48 itself is very quiet and since the firing vector was set using passive systems and enemy boat or ship wont even know the torpedo is closing until its close, or until we cut the control wire on it and it goes active.

    And should the fish miss it will continue to circle looking for the enemy boat. All sides use various counter measures too. Its a constant chess game of who's tech is better.
     
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    That's a Good Thing.
     
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    Yes it is, but I want proof that it works.
     
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    That's kinda like asking when was the last time you needed a pistol.
    Just like a fire extinguisher or life insurance. Better to have and not need, than need and not have.

    ETA, after your last post, perhaps I misunderstood your previous.
     
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    I wanna see an Iranian ship on the receiving end just to verify.
     
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    pizza_pablo USN Retired

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    I'm good with that test!
     
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    The navy does SINKEX’s every year