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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by HalfHazzard, Jun 16, 2017.
You've got to be kidding! This type of stuff doesn't happen in open seas unless... The merchant ship came out of nowhere and bam! Even in a shipping channel... really?
This is a freakin guided missile destroyer with about as good a radar system as anywhere. This is a combat warship. Damn!
Anyway...The Captain and whoever was on the bridge at the time... are probably TOAST!
In other words. "Captain gets a new job!"
...........and in the Federal Govt., that means the Capt. will get a promotion! I see it at work all the time within my agency. Those who are the biggest screw-ups get promoted, always!
Was it during an UNREP?
Oops. I think the Captain will probably be retiring a little sooner than expected.
I heard it was a container ship, and if that's so then no.
What ? Like they didn't see a containership ?
One of the last voyages of the 70s refurbished, USS Coral Sea, resulted in such a collision in the Carribean with an Ecuadorian tanker. -these things happen more than you think.
-Think about a supply ship coming along side in bad weather. The ship's crew had to know that the Japanese ship was near, unless they were asleep on the bridge. We'll probably never know the real story as such truths tend to reveal weaknesses.
Point is, even with all the technology and training, things like this happen.
From what I have heard. This is a career ender. Even if Captain was asleep in his bunk, off ship in required meeting. You would have to have HUGE connections to recover from this.
As said if this was open ocean... Wouldn't you have constant position, course, speed on everything within at LEAST 25 miles? Everything 10 miles, closer I would think watched like hawk.
Nothing not known closer then 5 miles, Captain notified.
headsuptheass syndrome and you won't see anything.
Then you know NOTHING about the Navy. I had 21 yrs on active duty, was an experienced Fleet Officer of the Deck. The Navy in most cases is very intolerant of collisions.
COs are often relieved for cause for almost anything. Had better be 100% the freighter's fault or he will suffer. Even if he is cleared, he can most likely forget about a promotion. Don
Call Sign: DYUG
Flag: Philippines [PH]
AIS Vessel Type: Cargo
Gross Tonnage: 29060
Deadweight: 39565 t
Length Overall x Breadth Extreme: 222.6m × 30.1m
Year Built: 2008
Container ship headed for Tokyo.
Two objects trying to occupy the same space.
More to it than that. CIC almost certainly had this ship on radar for a very long time, lookouts, assuming it was daylight again a long way out. At night of course less warning from the lookouts. Bridge also has radar scopes. Don
As a plankowner of the USS Stethem (DDG-63) GSM1(SW)... the likelihood of them NOT seeing a Japanese freighter... is pretty much slim to nil. Someone screwed the pooch and was sleeping on watch. These ships have a whole array of radars, the most powerful and capable being the Aegis Phased Array 1D.
Several people are going to fry over this.
"Hold my beer and watch this."
The reason I posted what I did about this type of accident... rare and the Captain and officers on duty on the bridge when it happened...
My best friend, like a brother, retired Naval Commander, 85 years old... he's told me stories and the responsibility that comes with any Naval ship, especially a combat ready guided missile destroyer...
This type of a accident is a career buster for the Captain and the officer in charge on the bridge. Have you seen the Pic? They got hit on the starboard side, just ahead of midship. And they're taking on water, pumps working.
This Arleigh Burke destroyer... first class attack destroyer. And there were injuries and possible fatalities.
Very sad. Hope all are well.
You would think. I was on a carrier in the Gulf of Tonkin and well aware of means of detection. I didn't hear if this was a night or daylight collision, but regardless you are correct in having plenty of means of detection. Like I said a bad case of headsuptheass, and (whatever else??)
And he's save money on seasick pills. It'll be shore duty for the short remaining time he's in the USN.
No matter where the captain is and his sleep status, he's responsible for the ship. If the person in the bridge didn't know to contact him before running into the other ship, it's the captain's error for not properly teaching that. It sucks for him.
Wow. My Captain's ticket is only for 100 ton vessels, but I've run 100' vessels with 400+ passengers aboard through Seattle's harbor, dodging container ships, ferries, commercial fishing boats, kayaks, yachts, sailboats, etc. in daylight and no light, perfect clear conditions and heavy rain/wind storms with near zero visibility (serious pucker factor), 99% of the time as the only person in the wheelhouse, driving, navigating, communicating, watching the radar and keeping visual watch simultaneously.
If I could avoid hitting anything, a navy warship with lookouts, radar observers, radiomen, navigator, quartermaster, Deck Officer, etc. damn well should be able to do the same.
Someone screwed up HARD (says Captain Obvious).