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UK: Burglary pretty much legal at this point

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by m87, Mar 17, 2010.

  1. m87

    m87

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    Not much of an exaggeration...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257309/Dont-burglars-jail-unless-hurt--courts-told.html

    Burglars should not be jailed unless they cause damage or hurt someone when committing their crime, Government advisers said yesterday.

    The Sentencing Advisory Panel called for judges and magistrates not to hand down prison sentences to ordinary burglars who were responsible for 'minimal loss or damage'.

    But even criminals who operate in gangs or steal large sums of money may walk free under the guidelines, which suggest 'community' punishment for many offenders.

    The recommendations contradict last year's ruling by Lord Chief Justice Lord Judge, which stated that jail should be the 'normally appropriate' punishment for convicted burglars.

    Instead, the Sentencing Advisory Panel said yesterday that 'any starting point for domestic burglary should be non-custodial'.

    Damage, harm to householders or other factors making the crime more serious should make a jail sentence more likely, it suggested.

    But its report acknowledged that some experts had expressed 'grave concern' over the advice.

    The recommendations to let burglars walk free come as, for the first time in several years, burglaries are increasing.

    Police recorded more than 284,000 burglaries last year, a one per cent increase on the previous year, and the Panel report said the crime was 'still sufficiently common to affect many individuals and households'.

    The Panel has for the past decade existed to advise judges on sentencing. However, it will be abolished in April and replaced by a new Sentencing Council.

    Its report is nevertheless likely to be considered by its successor.
    Criminologist Dr David Green, from think tank Civitas, said: ' Burglary is a shocking invasion of privacy. While a burglar may not attack anybody, many are prepared to do so if detected.

    'Police have recorded rising numbers of burglaries in the latest figures. The recommendation that burglars should not be jailed sends completely the wrong message.'

    The guidance from the Sentencing Advisory Panel, which is headed by academic lawyer Professor Andrew Ashworth QC, appears the first challenge from within the judicial establishment to the tougher approach introduced by Lord Judge.

    Since becoming leader of the judiciary in England and Wales in 2008, he has reversed the liberalising moves of his predecessors by ordering longer sentences for armed criminals and murderers.

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  2. american lockpicker

    american lockpicker License to Il

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    itisbruno Devious Member CLM

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    Wow ... come take my stuff, no one cares ...
     
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    around here, "community punishment" would mean something along the lines of "everyone in the community beats the crap out of you".
     
  5. MacG22

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    Ignores all of the research that suggests that home invasions are some of the most dangerous sorts of crime if bad guy bumps into someone in the process.

    Also, it shows no respect for private property rights. Which is one of the biggest differences between the two countries as it is.
     
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    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    Is this for real? :faint:


























    Seriously? :faint:




















    What the hell are they smoking over there? :faint:
     
  7. 4TS&W

    4TS&W 2A RKBA 4EVER

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    I would be a criminal in the UK. One way or the other.

    Actual criminals are the "victims", and actual victims are the "criminals".

    That is messed up!
     
  8. okie

    okie GT Mayor

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    Holy Christ in Heaven:shocked::faint:
     
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    Yeah, I think I'd just opt for a life of crime. Easier and more profitable.
     
  10. cdog533

    cdog533 Zombie Killer

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    OMG that place sucks.

    I always had respect for the Brits, given their bravery during the Battle of Britain, and the whole Churchill / pick yourself up by your bootstraps attitude.

    And they certainly have had some other VERY brave soldiers over the years. Men who put things like duty, honor, and service to the queen FAR above their own safety and comfort.

    But that's all dead now. When that generation died, those attitudes died with it. Somehow they've lost their way in the name of safety and being 'civilized'.
     
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    juswes Team Red

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    My words for that part of the world would be censored here.
     
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    and now you dont have to worry about jail time:upeyes:
     
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    There are people in this country i fear who would take us down the same road as what was once GREAT Britain.
     
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    the us government should open a trade program. we can send out criminals over there. gets rid of a huge bill from the prison system, and they obviously want more criminals.
    and we can get the people the hard working people that want to live in a civilized country.
     
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    The English are getting exactly what they deserve. They voted for these liberals.
    Just like we got what we deserved last election.
     
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    Next, the Brits will declare locks on doors a violation of burglar's right to engage in his chosen profession.
     
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    I started to laugh at your statement, but stopped. You might just be right. In fact the burglar will probably be able to sue you and your family if he trips in your house and sprains his ankle while robbing you.
     
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    costanza187 I like Macs

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    Had to tweak it slightly. Agree 100%
    I wonder if the docile populace over there buys into the whole 'sympathetic rogue/Robin Hood' image, or they are just so indoctrinated against violence that they can't accept it being used for ANY reason...even defense of one's 'castle'.
     
  20. crimsonaudio

    crimsonaudio 15 or 30?

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    Mediocre Britain sinks to a new low...