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Two off-duty Los Angeles Police Department officers have been arrested...

Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by wcmaas, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. wcmaas

    wcmaas Spares Weenie Silver Member

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    This could turn out badly -- makes it so hard for the guys and gals out there doing the job:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/01/2-offduty-lapd-officers-arrested-for-allegedly-pistolwhipping-man-in-whittier.html

    January 27, 2010 | 8:37 am

    Two off-duty Los Angeles Police Department officers have been arrested for allegedly pistol-whipping a man during a fight in Whittier, authorities said this morning.

    One of the officers apparently got into an argument with his girlfriend about 8 p.m. Tuesday outside a Panera Bread restaurant in the 15600 block of Whittwood Lane, the Whittier Police Department said in a statement.

    Witnesses told police the officer took issue with a bystander, who was watching the altercation while talking on his cellphone, and struck the man in the face. A fight ensued, during which one of the officers allegedly pulled out a handgun and began hitting the victim in the head, the statement said.

    The victim was able to break free, but both off-duty officers chased after him and tackled him to the ground, where the assault continued, the statement said. The victim eventually escaped by running into a nearby Target store.

    The victim was treated at the scene and taken to a hospital for further evaluation. The two officers were arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. They have been placed on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation, LAPD officials said.

    The Whittier Police Department has identified the arrested officers as Brandon Valdez, 29, and Patrick Fitzgerald, 38.
    [Updated, 4:03 pm: The officers were each released this morning on $30,000 bail.]

    -- Alexandra Zavis and Andrew Blankstein
     
  2. GioaJack

    GioaJack Conifer Jack

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    Just because they give you a badge it doesn't automatically make you smart. Looks like there's going to be two job openings.

    Jack
     

  3. Mayhem like Me

    Mayhem like Me Semper Paratus

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    Psgwsp...................
     
  4. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Thats it! no Christmas card for you!!

    Accipe Hoc!

    :tongueout::rofl:
     
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    If this is true, meaning everything is accurate, these two idiots need to be prosecuted not just fired. On a department this large you will always have some really bad apples.
    I remember when two LAPD officers, who were also off duty, were fired and prosecuted for shooting at a CHP officer. :dunno:
     
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    Don't worry...

    You and I will come up with something special for him this Christmas season.

    hehehehe.... :whistling:
     
  7. Morris

    Morris CLM

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    That would be felony assault up here (and I suspect as well in Cali). Fully expect a dismissal and court action.

    When nobody in uniform shows up in court at your arraignment, that speaks volumes . . .
     
  8. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    Yeah... well... 2 idiots out of 10,000. Still pretty good. These two need to be gone, to jail, if everything is true.

    It's also unfortunately not uncommon. LASO deputy pulled a gun on a tow truck driver recently. He showed up to his arraignment in full uniform with a gun. Got promptly arrested by the bailiff for carrying a gun to court as a defendant. New charge added today.
     
  9. R1ceRocket

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    An off-duty female LASD deputy got into an altercation with another female outside of a bar just the other day in downtown LA, ended up getting stabbed and the deputy's family member shot the assailant.

    An off-duty LAPD officer crashed on his motorcycle and died after drinking at the academy bar last month.

    Lots of bad judgment calls made by off-duty guys these days...very unfortunate.
     
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    Morris CLM

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    The fact there is a bar at the academy must give LA's risk managers shudders. Stress or a lack of willingness to simply maintain a decent attitude off duty? Or just the alcohol talking?
     
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    1st degre rookie syndrome. Some one should be teaching these LEO's that a badge isn't a Visa to do what ever you want nor a Get Out Of Jail Free card.
     
  12. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    They do teach that at the academy and the FTO hopefully pounds that into the rookie's head but you can't correct stupid, you can only delay or suppress it.
     
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    At one time most of the people that applied to any LE agency did it for the love of the job, not the money. Too many recruits are there for the benefits and security working for a LE agency provided. Where I am, qualified candidates are run off to maintain 'balance' in recruit classes, So many local residents, so many men, so many women, etc etc. The result is guys who are collecting a paycheck as opposed to earning one. Another problem is the erosion of the chain of command and 'peer presure' You can't tell a lot of new guys anything and if I say something as a first line supervisor that they don't like someone will go crying to trhe Lieutenant or the District Commander. Why they even entertain this BS is beyond me. (rant over)
     
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    WoW a Bar at the Academy.. that is ... wow.

    But .. Matt Dillon would swing into Miss Kitty's for a beverage on his way over to the stable before riding out to get the BG.
     
  15. lawman800

    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    Don't worry, that's everywhere now. The new generation has no clue about rank and structure and chain of command. They just complain straight to the top and the top entertains it which makes me wonder why even bother having anyone in the intermediate steps?

    Why not just have 1 boss and everyone else be workers? It'll save the place a lot of money.
     
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    I wonder what the background investigator found when he did his pre-employment check on the involved officers?

    Way too many times a candidate that would usually not be accepted to the academy is accepted due to race, gender, and now, sexual orientation. This started many years ago and is approved by the brass (they refuse to talk about it). A number of times a background investigator would state in his report that a candidate should NOT be hired as they will just be a problem and liability for the city. But, due to the above mentioned reasons, the investigator's supervisor overrides the recommendation and the person is hired.

    In the long run this will come back to bite the agency.
     
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    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    It just keeps getting better, don't it?
    The flipside is how many qualified people were set aside for these people just so the administration can meet their quota for whatever minority target they have to meet, be it race, gender, or sexual orientation?

    When you take out merit as a consideration and factor in parameters which have nothing to do with performance, you are setting your organization up for failure on a systemic scale which you cannot cure without a wholesale restructuring and lots of time.
     
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    i8547 Without Equal

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    WRT the bar at the academy mentions... this actually isn't too uncommon at quite a few agencies across the nation. It's typically something stood up by an agencies welfare & recreation unit/association etc. Even FLETC has a bar on base and it's Uncle Sugar operated for Christ Sakes.
     
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    series1811 Enforcerator. CLM

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    Whenever we get a real loser, I always wonder if some GS-2 clerk didn't get two files mixed up, and if there is somebody, somewhere, with the same name, who is really squared away, who is wondering why he didn't get hired.
     
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    lawman800 Juris Glocktor

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    Yeah, the bar and cantina is operated by LAPRAAC (Los Angeles Pistol Revolver And Athletic Club), not LAPD.

    Food's not too bad and the prices are decent. They even have a pool there and the gym is always full of SWAT guys in XS shirts.