Trump deploying troops

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  1. "Doc" Cavalry

    "Doc" Cavalry MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    Might I suggest DOOR JAMB ARMOR and THE CLUB for doors.

    Replace all those hinge and striker plate screws with 4 inch deck screws too.

    Be well.
     
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  2. thewitt

    thewitt

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    I am very familiar with the Insurrection Act and it’s authority and under what conditions it may be invoked.

    Some here are not.

    Insurrection is NOT regular law and order. We have not yet seen any acts of insurrection yet - which is the supplanting of the elected government.

    We may, but it hasn’t happened yet.
     
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  3. cityborncountrylivin

    cityborncountrylivin

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    If there is Martial Law in November there won't be any election. There will be no Civil Courts. There will be nothing other than what the Commander-in-Chief proscribes.

    The power of the President to protect the nation is not subject to limits by anyone or anything
     
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  4. Pluto57

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    Well, so far things don't look much different in Washington D.C. tonight.
     
  5. NMG26

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    Some rioters gonna get called up to their units to put a stop to the bs...........irony.
     
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    I'm good with it. This crap has gone on way too long already.
     
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  7. ExecutiveWill

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    It was in Dallas
     
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  8. Chui

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    Bingo!

    The Communists always create a reactionary force. They call it fascism. Sometimes it does turn into fascism but only after doing the they’ve been doing for the past week.

    I cannot believe some people are apologists for these people and are more afraid of right wing groups. Yeah, these folks exist.


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  9. Chui

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    Where have you been? It’s been over since 1871.


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  10. Chui

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    What in Hades have YOU been watching??


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  11. clancy

    clancy Oh, for a muse of fire

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    You don't consider the attacks on the White House an attempt to supplant our government? Had they breached the fence and gotten past the Secret Service, they would have done their best to try.
     
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    Will Beararms Millennium Member

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    Exactly. The threshold was crossed when those four police officers were shot in St. Louis. No more protests until the Anarchists stay home. ANTIFA should have been dealt with a year or more ago.
     
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  13. bigj480

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    It's absolutely needed, to allow the country to burn down for political reasons is weakness. Try to spin it if you want, but that's what it is. Nothing could hurt him more in November than being weak anyway. Most Trump supporters are about fed up with this criminal BS, END IT NOW!
     
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    UNFORTUNATELY this will never happen.....("not that there is anything wrong with that")
     
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    WT Millennium Member

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    Back in the Nixon presidency, they were fearful of antiwar riots in D. C. They surrounded the White House with buses, nuts to butts, forcing protestors to climb under or over the buses.

    Seemed to work well from what I remember.
     
  16. thewitt

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    No. As bad as this theft, arson and property damage is, there have been no attempts to remove the elected officials in any region.
     
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    Please tell me in WHAT district, anywhere in the country, that the rioters have tried to replace the elected government with their own version of same? Just one. As ugly as this is, it's just law enforcement, not insurrection.
     
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  18. clancy

    clancy Oh, for a muse of fire

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    If they get inside the White House and get their hands on Trump, what do you think they will do?
     
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    Dimwitt: Wrong. Again. Insurrection Act. All nice and legal.
     
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    Should they actually cross the fence line, they will be shot. I'm good with that. Insurrection is an act, not a thought, not a what-if. You cannot simply deploy the US military in a State without an actual insurrection attempt or a request from the state government.

    In DC, Trump can deploy the military any time he wants. That's the exception.

    It's not a complex law.

    The elected government of the state is in control of the state. They determine if they need the support of the US Military. If they request it, they will get it. As long as they are in charge, they can ask.

    If there is an insurrection - the replacement of the duly elected state officials - then the state government is NO LONGER in control, so the president can order in the US Military to return the state government to the elected officials.

    This is why the Insurrection Act exists.

    The Constitution guarantees that the states have a representative form of government, and the Insurrection Act is in place to give the US Government an avenue to provide this level of support.