Trump deploying troops

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  1. thewitt

    thewitt

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    Just because he says it doesn’t mean he can do it without the request of the states.

    He did speak with all the governors today. He may have an agreement in place, however that does not change the Constitution.

    It has nothing to do with belief.

    Insurrection is not simply thugs looting and rioting. Insurrection means overthrowing the legal government. If any of these anarchists try to actually usurp the legally elected government, the US troops can be deployed.

    For "routine law enforcement" actions - like suppressing looting and rioting - the states must request assistance.
     
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  2. 'Ol Grandad

    'Ol Grandad Director of civil unrest

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    Just declare it open season on Antifa pukes and us boogaloo boys will take care of it.
     
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  3. Glock45Lover

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    The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law (10 U.S.C. §§ 251–255; prior to 2016, 10 U.S.C. §§ 331–335) that governs the ability of the President of the United States to deploy military troops within the United States to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, and rebellion.
    Long title: An Act authorizing the employment of ...
    Effective: March 3, 1807
    Enacted by: the 9th United States Congress

    Last used during the Rodney King riots in LA.

    The general purpose of the Insurrection Act is to limit presidential power, relying on state and local governments for initial response in the event of insurrection. The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the use of the United States Army and Air Force (which has also been extended by executive direction to the Navy) for routine law enforcement. Actions taken under the Insurrection Act, as an "Act of Congress", are exempt from the Posse Comitatus Act.[1][2]

    The Insurrection Act is brief. It allows the President, at the request of a state government, to federalize the National Guard and to use the remainder of the Armed Forces to suppress an insurrection against that state's government. It further allows for the President to do the same in a state without the explicit consent of a state's government if it becomes impracticable to enforce federal laws through ordinary proceedings or if states are unable to safeguard its inhabitants' civil rights.
     
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  4. rayzer007

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    I guess the federal "assistance" the Democrat states have been looking for is on the way! Not necessarily in the exact form they were expecting though.
     
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  5. clancy

    clancy Oh, for a muse of fire

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    This no doubt the end of our republic. Trump set the whole thing up, with the CIA, to instigate the riots and is running the whole thing from the bunker in the White House. He is using the military to gain and keep control of our country and set himself up as dictator for life!









































    Just joking! If those gutless governors won't do what is needed to end the violence, than I am glad we have a president with the brass balls to do what needs be done.
     
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  6. serve_and_protect

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    The Insurrection Act is unconstitutional.

    Nothing in the US Constitution gives the federal government the power to declare martial law.
     
  7. Chui

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    Even if he was the governors aren’t doing .

    The problem is we don’t have active States’ Militias...


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  8. Terry G

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    These are my Golden Years? Pandemic, Insurrection, and Martial Law? I think I did this already.
     
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    If Trump tries to implement martial law, the result in November is not going to be the one you want, unless you want to say hello to President Biden. :eek:


    While YOU are undoubtedly giddy at the prospect of "owning the libs" with absolutely no concern for the long-term consequences, most Americans (including conservatives) are not so short-sighted.


    If Trump uses these riots as an opportunity to go the "caudillo" route, he is going to lose badly in November.
     
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  10. serve_and_protect

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    Trump announces a lot of things.


    Let's see what he actually does.

    I'm still waiting for the swamp to be drained, the wall to be built, the Muslim ban (remember that?), and the illegals to be deported.
     
  11. bubbatime

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    Trump can do whatever he wants. Obama could too. And Bush before him. They can fully authorize a military response, quell the disturbance. Its AFTERWARDS, many months afterwards, that he might get slapped down by the Supreme Court or by the legislative branch, or by the citizens in November at voting time, but in real time, he can do whatever the heck he wants.
     
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    To con gullible people into thinking "something" is being done, so they can gloat about "owning the libs" on Facebook, with no concern for the long-term consequences.
     
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    While I agree, we're in the minority. With the modern interpretation of "general welfare" "interstate commerce" and "necessary and proper" nothing is unconstitutional.
     
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    If nothing is unconstitutional, and the government can twist the constitution to empower themselves to do whatever they want, then the USA as a free country is over.
     
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    Did you miss post #7?
     
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    Damn you Clancy!!!! Of ALL the dribble I've read here over the last 2 months, I've lost faith in soooo many people. I saw YOUR post and about cried. I literally lowered my head and whispered, "Nooooo......not Clancy too."
     
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    The only way you will hear about someone getting killed is if a Policeman does it to save his or his other Police. If a looter or whatever you wish to label them kills someone it will be hushed up. Those looters are good folks, folks.
     
  18. JimWillson

    JimWillson Victim of public education

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    Can he invoke the Covid Clause of the Constitution, the same that suspends the 1st Amendment, according to justice Roberts?
     
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    I woke up late Sat/Sunday morning at 4am... and on my twitter feed was a short clip of a man getting murdered by a group of thugs. It was fast, and it was real. It's since disappeared and I've heard nothing more about it since.

    It shook me up pretty bad, but thankfully was able to use the anxiety to get a lot done around the house.
     
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  20. "Doc" Cavalry

    "Doc" Cavalry MAJ (USA Ret.)

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    Well, it is an insurrection.

    I sure wish I was in charge of the rules of engagement.

    "engage immediately any target that is attempting arson, theft, vandalism or assault with a weapon."


    CNN and MSNBC told us they were all white supremacists, so they should be cool with that.

    Shoot, shovel, shut up.
     
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