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Because empowering the politicians and government bureaucrats to declare anyone they don't like a "domestic terrorist" is exactly how you become England.
You think Antifa are "anyone they don't like?"

Clearly you have not been paying attention.

They are well-organized, well-funded, domestic anarchists who are using fear, rioting, murder and political blackmail to try to overthrow our form of government and install a socialist regime based on Marxist principles.

Domestic terrorists indeed.

Now the Patriot Act did offer a definition of what a Domestic Terrorist is, however this has not yet been challenged in court and is not likely to stand up.

I can guarantee you that the Trump administration has traced funding for Antifa to organizations outside the US - likely Soros funded organizations located outside the US to avoid scrutiny by the IRS - and THIS ALONE defines these groups as externally funded and qualifies they as International Terrorist organizations.
 

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I like the sentiment, but can't these groups just change their names to get around the designation?
This. I would have said "Anarchists and Anarchy". ANTIFA just means "anti-fascists", not necessarily anarchist or anarchy. I fear the writing of this bill missed the mark in this regard.
 

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You think Antifa are "anyone they don't like?"

Clearly you have not been paying attention.

They are well-organized, well-funded, domestic anarchists who are using fear, rioting, murder and political blackmail to try to overthrow our form of government and install a socialist regime based on Marxist principles.

Domestic terrorists indeed.

Now the Patriot Act did offer a definition of what a Domestic Terrorist is, however this has not yet been challenged in court and is not likely to stand up.

I can guarantee you that the Trump administration has traced funding for Antifa to organizations outside the US - likely Soros funded organizations located outside the US to avoid scrutiny by the IRS - and THIS ALONE defines these groups as externally funded and qualifies they as International Terrorist organizations.


A bunch of 18 year old losers smashing windows and burning things does not equal "terrorists" by any reasonable definition of the word.

And when was the last terrorist attack committed by the KKK?


If Trump can declare Antifa or KKK to be "domestic terrorists", the next Democrat POTUS can declare anyone they don't like (even YOU) to be a "domestic terrorist."
 

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You think Antifa are "anyone they don't like?"

Clearly you have not been paying attention.

They are well-organized, well-funded, domestic anarchists who are using fear, rioting, murder and political blackmail to try to overthrow our form of government and install a socialist regime based on Marxist principles.

Domestic terrorists indeed.

Now the Patriot Act did offer a definition of what a Domestic Terrorist is, however this has not yet been challenged in court and is not likely to stand up.

I can guarantee you that the Trump administration has traced funding for Antifa to organizations outside the US - likely Soros funded organizations located outside the US to avoid scrutiny by the IRS - and THIS ALONE defines these groups as externally funded and qualifies they as International Terrorist organizations.


Trump's own Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf, thinks that "white supremacists" are the most "persistent and lethal" domestic terrorists.


I guess he's been asleep during all the Antifa and BLM riots.


If even a Republican Secretary of Homeland Security is more concerned about "white supremacists" than Antifa/BLM, get ready for the next Democrat administration to use Trump's "anyone I don't like is a terrorist" law to crush conservatives, patriots, MAGA supporters, Qanon believers, etc.


This "anyone the government doesn't like is a terrorist" law is a Trojan horse, just like the Patriot Act.


Short-sighted conservatives support it because they think it will only be used against people they don't like, only to be surprised when the government uses it against THEM.


Here's Trump's DHS Secretary Chad Wolf in his own words. Super concerned about "white supremacists", but no mention of BLM or Antifa:





Any conservative who supports this proposed "anyone the government doesn't like is a terrorist" law is being played.


Get ready for the law to be used against YOU by the next Democrat POTUS.


Don't say you weren't warned.
 

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He's pandering for votes, plain and simple.

He also should have saved this for the first debate. Now Creepy Sleepy Hidin Joe Biden is just going to plagiarize again.
Normally I’d agree with you 100% but in the case of DJT he’s dead serious about helping the black community as evidenced by what he’s done already. Black conservatives are a growing segment of voters and their voices are getting louder.
We have a sitting Communist in the statehouse in N.C. simply because the rural population of our state couldn’t overcome the well oiled machine of getting the voters in our large cities to the polls.
Whittling down the Democrats % of the black community will have profound effects on State and National elections.
 

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Give it another election cycle or two and the Republicans will be full on for reparations…
Nope. These are not the black voters that he’s talking to. These would be the Uncle Toms, Coons, sellouts according to liberal blacks.
 

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Which KKK there are dozens that have popped up due to internal politics.
I’ve lived in the rural Deep South for 53 years and never once has any “member” of a white supremacy group confided in me that such a group even existed. Given my openly right wing leanings I have no doubt that if the KKK was as prevalent as some wrongly suggest I would have ran across it at least in passing but that’s just not the case. I have no issue with DJT declaring the KKK as a terrorist group but my contention is that Aunt-Tifa co-mingled with BLM activists is a far greater threat to racism and violence in America. We’re seeing countless acts of violence from these two groups but there’s not been one linching , one organized cross burning, anywhere in the USA.
 

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I’ve lived in the rural Deep South for 53 years and never once has any “member” of a white supremacy group confided in me that such a group even existed. Given my openly right wing leanings I have no doubt that if the KKK was as prevalent as some wrongly suggest I would have ran across it at least in passing but that’s just not the case. I have no issue with DJT declaring the KKK as a terrorist group but my contention is that Aunt-Tifa co-mingled with BLM activists is a far greater threat to racism and violence in America. We’re seeing countless acts of violence from these two groups but there’s not been one linching , one organized cross burning, anywhere in the USA.


If the KKK effectively doesn't even exist and isn't committing any terrorist attacks, then why do you "have no issue with DJT declaring the KKK as a terrorist group"?


Are you OK with the government declaring vaguely-defined groups that aren't even committing any terrorist acts as "domestic terrorists"?
 

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Nope. These are not the black voters that he’s talking to. These would be the Uncle Toms, Coons, sellouts according to liberal blacks.
It's about what "they" (Republicans) will do in the future. Not what "he" (President) is doing now. The US isn't the fictitious town of Mayberry. Don't be so naive.
 

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If the KKK effectively doesn't even exist and isn't committing any terrorist attacks, then why do you "have no issue with DJT declaring the KKK as a terrorist group"?


Are you OK with the government declaring vaguely-defined groups that aren't even committing any terrorist acts as "domestic terrorists"?
The KKK has never been “vaguely defined” since it was morphed into a violent group intent on committing acts of violence against those that they disagreed with. Hezbolah hasn’t been actively committed violent acts here in America but I’m still good with them being classified as a terrorist group too.
 

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It's about what "they" (Republicans) will do in the future. Not what "he" (President) is doing now. The US isn't the fictitious town of Mayberry. Don't be so naive.
I have no clue what you are trying to say. Born and raised in N.C. and what a town called Mayberry has to do with this is beyond me.
 

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A load of virtue signaling nonsense that benefits only the Leftists.


Trump (and any conservative who supports this) is playing into the Leftists' hands.


1) The Leftists consider "lynching" to be any instance where a minority (or member of any other Leftist favored group such as LBGTQXYZ etc) is killed by a White person. The Leftists consider Trayvon Martin to have been "lynched." They consider Ahmaud Arbery to have been "lynched." They consider the pedophile who was shot by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha to have been "lynched."


If "lynching" becomes a "national hate crime", don't be surprised when YOU are convicted and sentenced to LIFE in prison if you ever have to shoot a minority (or member of any other Leftist favored group) in self-defense.


For all the "BiDeN iS tHe ReAl RaCiSt" virtue signalers who are excited about this plan, get ready to to enjoy spending the rest of your life in prison as a convicted "hate criminal" after you shoot a minority who is trying to kill YOU or your family.


But hey, at least you got to gloat on Facebook about "owning the libs" and how "Biden is the real racist", right?


Oh well. Hopefully spending the rest of YOUR life in prison was worth a few minutes of gloating on Facebook.



2) The government currently is not allowed by law to designate Americans as "terrorists." This is a VERY GOOD thing. If this idiotic plan becomes law, get ready for the next Democrat POTUS to declare as "terrorists" Trump/MAGA supporters, the NRA, GOA, Qanon followers, anti-abortion groups, Christians who don't want their preschoolers brainwashed into becoming transgender, anyone who doesn't want creepy men using the girl's bathroom, anyone who complains about immigration, anyone who criticizes Islam, anyone who criticizes BLM, etc etc etc etc.


But hey, at least you got to gloat on Facebook about a few Antifa losers getting thrown in jail, right?


Hopefully those few minutes of gloating on Facebook are worth the cost of YOU being declared a "domestic terrorist" by President Cuomo/Newsom/Michelle.


Once the Dems get a nationwide red flag law passed, YOU will lose your right to own guns, too.


But at least you got to gloat on Facebook about a few Antifa members getting put in jail! It's worth it, right?




3) Republicans have been trying to get Black people to vote R since the 1950s with no significant success. Is this $500 billion bribe really going to work?



4) White working class Trump/MAGA supporters in the opioid-ravaged heartland will be absolutely thrilled to hear that Donald is spending $500 billion on people who didn't even vote for him.
A load of virtue signaling nonsense that benefits only the Leftists.


Trump (and any conservative who supports this) is playing into the Leftists' hands.


1) The Leftists consider "lynching" to be any instance where a minority (or member of any other Leftist favored group such as LBGTQXYZ etc) is killed by a White person. The Leftists consider Trayvon Martin to have been "lynched." They consider Ahmaud Arbery to have been "lynched." They consider the pedophile who was shot by Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha to have been "lynched."


If "lynching" becomes a "national hate crime", don't be surprised when YOU are convicted and sentenced to LIFE in prison if you ever have to shoot a minority (or member of any other Leftist favored group) in self-defense.


For all the "BiDeN iS tHe ReAl RaCiSt" virtue signalers who are excited about this plan, get ready to to enjoy spending the rest of your life in prison as a convicted "hate criminal" after you shoot a minority who is trying to kill YOU or your family.


But hey, at least you got to gloat on Facebook about "owning the libs" and how "Biden is the real racist", right?


Oh well. Hopefully spending the rest of YOUR life in prison was worth a few minutes of gloating on Facebook.



2) The government currently is not allowed by law to designate Americans as "terrorists." This is a VERY GOOD thing. If this idiotic plan becomes law, get ready for the next Democrat POTUS to declare as "terrorists" Trump/MAGA supporters, the NRA, GOA, Qanon followers, anti-abortion groups, Christians who don't want their preschoolers brainwashed into becoming transgender, anyone who doesn't want creepy men using the girl's bathroom, anyone who complains about immigration, anyone who criticizes Islam, anyone who criticizes BLM, etc etc etc etc.


But hey, at least you got to gloat on Facebook about a few Antifa losers getting thrown in jail, right?


Hopefully those few minutes of gloating on Facebook are worth the cost of YOU being declared a "domestic terrorist" by President Cuomo/Newsom/Michelle.


Once the Dems get a nationwide red flag law passed, YOU will lose your right to own guns, too.


But at least you got to gloat on Facebook about a few Antifa members getting put in jail! It's worth it, right?




3) Republicans have been trying to get Black people to vote R since the 1950s with no significant success. Is this $500 billion bribe really going to work?



4) White working class Trump/MAGA supporters in the opioid-ravaged heartland will be absolutely thrilled to hear that Donald is spending $500 billion on people who didn't even vote for him.
Huh??

I didn't "gloat on facebook" about any of these things.

Settle down.
 
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Fortunately, when Biden wins the election, he'll shut this down quickly, so the $500 billion can be used for more important things.
Yeah, like Hunter's coke nose and hooker habit, with the money funneled to Hunter from fellow commies.
 
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A bunch of 18 year old losers smashing windows and burning things does not equal "terrorists" by any reasonable definition of the word.

And when was the last terrorist attack committed by the KKK?


If Trump can declare Antifa or KKK to be "domestic terrorists", the next Democrat POTUS can declare anyone they don't like (even YOU) to be a "domestic terrorist."
Over $1 Billion in damage, 30 murders, taking over city blocks isn't just "smashing windows and burning things".
 

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You guys are funny

Comparing the KKk to BLM and ANTIFA is laughable !

The KKK is insignificant and hasn't had any impact on anything in a long long time while the other groups are causing major havoc and actually KILLINK PEOPLE NOW.
 
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