went to local range friday . took my ruger sp 357 & colt 1991 45 acp. got some meaningful practice with both bout 25' with the magnum & 30' plus for the full size 45 . one hand shooting & semi-rapid fire was accomplished with both guns , decent results ..... even the 357 with magnum loads ! near center target hits 80 % of t he time met some new folks , nice people . the wife of a guy there had bought her a lcp 380 . she was practicing from around 20 ' . her shots where widely scattered even in very slow fire . yep , we have all had this with a new shooting iron i would guess ! when she came over to shooters bench i had a good look at her new gun , those lcp's are tiny . i took out my glock 43 & showed her , my glock looked huge in comparison & it is only an 18 ounce gun ! i just was thinking that i would not like to try & train someone on that tiny of a carry piece even at close range . i bet given 10 minutes with her i would have her shooting my 45 much better than the lcp . we talked a bit and i departed , wishing her luck with her purchase.