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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by certifiedfunds, Nov 7, 2012.

  1. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    Actuary seems way high.

    Anyone have experience?
     

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    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    I am told that the actuarial exam (whatever it's called) is one of the most challenging professional certification exams out there.

    #1 on the list seems crazy low. Petroleum engineer seems about right. CNRA seems about right.

    I'm always curious about the data set.
     
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    Being an actuary is as close as a human can be to a deity without having nail holes in their hands and feet. HH
     
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    There's like 9 total! :wow:

    I was going to make a run at it to try to break my unemployment streak but found a job before I started it, thank **** for that.
     
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    Should have small business owners pay rate in there..That would be more like 35,000-1,000,000
     
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    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    Be glad. If you had taken and passed the exams you'd be stuck doing actuarial work all day.

    Then, one day your curiosity would get the best of you and you'd calculate your own death day and your life would never be the same.
     
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    I thought everybody on GT made well over $100k a year.
     
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    $100k is only ~80th percentile...
     
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    Hell, I spend more than that... HH
     
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    I was sent a recruiting email for ER doctor in ABQ paying $200-250/hour. That works out to be $400,000 plus CME and malpractice with tail coverage and that's it. I'd be happy with half that, being just a mid level provider and all.

    So an ER doc makes more than a neurosurgeon, that ought to cause a few aneurysms in the surgical community.
     
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    If true, I would imagine it's because ER docs don't get to schedule their procedures. HH
     
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    Bull crap.

    Only the lowest paid academic Neurosurgeons make $368,000 a year....and most of the best paid academic Neurosurgeons make more than $643,000 a year. Yesh, most of these things are public domain as the salaries of docs at public medical schools are public domain. Even in Academic medicine most Neuro Chairs get close to or make more than 7 figures.

    For those that dont know, Academic medicine pays less that private/group practice. A private practice Neurosurgeon, on average is going to be making 7 figures with some making mid 7 figures.

    The only way that Neurosurgeons average $368,000 is if they include residents in that figure. (where for 7 years they make about 50K a year)

    Most Attending Neurosurgeons wouldnt get out of their Ferrari for $368,000 a year.

    Utter crap. Such lists tend to be and even more so when they try to nail what doctors make.
     
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    ER docs are actually (again, on average) on the lower end of doctor pay. Yeah, they make a good living and can work "more" hours as needed but an ER doc is more or less a shift working Internal Medicine doctor. They are not surgeons (most people confuse trauma surgeons with ER doctors, NOT the same thing....nor same pay)
     
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    That's exactly the kind of data question I have when they calculate this stuff. Are they throwing residents into the mix?
     
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    True. I've had the honor to work under ER docs as a volunteer EMT who've cut skulls and chopped legs because of expediency. Had they done that as a specialty alone, they'd own Gulfstreams. HH
     
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    I have a college buddy who's an ER doc in DFW. He works either 2 or 3 days straight (sleeps at the hospital) and is off the rest of the week if I understand correctly. I don't know what he makes but based on his lifestyle and hobby I would expect a few hundred grand minimum (like 4-6)
     
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    Industry surveys. I get them all the time. Some are done by industry groups, some by third party groups, some by direct inquiry, many by looking at other public data: everything about you is available for a buck. There at companies which can sort the data to figure this out.

    If I want to send my marketing piece or my salesman to single mothers with a college degree and who buys dog food within a given zip code, I could make calls tomorrow morning and probably have the information by Friday afternoon. All it costs is money!
     
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    Yeah, I get that. I still wonder about the quality of the data sometimes.