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I'm thinking that an e-tool would be a handy thing to have.

I've never carried one backpacking because:

I've always had some sort of shelter. On the AT I've usually stayed in a shelter, and carried a tube tent with a line. Where there aren't shelters, I've carried a regular backpacking tent.​
I've always carried fuel and a stove for cooking. And only built a small fire with "pick-up" wood, or something that I could cut with a multi-tool.​
I've never really had to dig a hole while backpacking.​
So has anyone carried one backpacking? I'd think lightness would be the most important criteria.



For regular camping, I can see where an etool could be pretty handy for cutting bigger wood and managing a fire.


How about around the house/homestead/garden? Are they useful or is it better to just use the full sized tools, like a shovel, hoe, pick, saws?


So if you do have one, what do you use it for, and what kind to you have?

Glock (of course), Gerber, SOG, MIL, other?
 

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I'm thinking that an e-tool would be a handy thing to have.

I've never carried one backpacking because:

I've always had some sort of shelter. On the AT I've usually stayed in a shelter, and carried a tube tent with a line. Where there aren't shelters, I've carried a regular backpacking tent.​
I've always carried fuel and a stove for cooking. And only built a small fire with "pick-up" wood, or something that I could cut with a multi-tool.​
I've never really had to dig a hole while backpacking.​
So has anyone carried one backpacking? I'd think lightness would be the most important criteria.



For regular camping, I can see where an etool could be pretty handy for cutting bigger wood and managing a fire.


How about around the house/homestead/garden? Are they useful or is it better to just use the full sized tools, like a shovel, hoe, pick, saws?


So if you do have one, what do you use it for, and what kind to you have?

Glock (of course), Gerber, SOG, MIL, other?

I have an SOG mini e-tool that's a good backpacking tool; I also have a surplus AMES manufactured e-tool in the Jeep stowed away, but mostly I'm using a Bully Tools mini shovel ( it's about 2 feet long, fiberglass shaft, loop handle, powder coated blade, doesn't fold, just a small handy shovel) as the general purpose Jeep shovel; a good truck shovel, but not really good for backpacking...
 

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Glock makes an okay-ish e-tool, I keep one in every car and truck we have. But for backpacking… What exactly are do you plan on digging? When backpacking, I usually have a little Fiskars trowel, that's plenty enough for my digging needs… And for camping that doesn't involve a hike with your gear, you'll be better off with full sized tools (saw, shovel and axe).
 

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This is a folding entrenching tool. I have broken two of these when I was in the 82d Airborne Infantry. I was trying to dig through pine tree roots and they just were not up to that.
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Look at the center E- tool. You can fold it as shown, open the shovel blade 90 degrees(very handy for digging foxholes) or open it 180 and use it as a small shovel.
Look at the bottom old style E-tool. It can do all of the things the center one can do but it has that little pick that can go to 90 or 180 for digging in hard ground.

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No thanks.... I'd rather cut the handle off a trenching shovel.
 
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E-tools are the Hi-Points of the shovel world. Don’t waste the money. Get real tools.
 

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This is a folding entrenching tool. I have broken two of these when I was in the 82d Airborne Infantry. I was trying to dig through pine tree roots and they just were not up to that.
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Look at the center E- tool. You can fold it as shown, open the shovel blade 90 degrees(very handy for digging foxholes) or open it 180 and use it as a small shovel.
Look at the bottom old style E-tool. It can do all of the things the center one can do but it has that little pick that can go to 90 or 180 for digging in hard ground.

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I had the one in the middle in '66-'67 RVN, then in '69-'70 I had a similar one that had a pick opposite of the shovel blade. Good for hard ground, pick till you have something to scoop or scrape, repeat.

A good fighting/sleeping hole would be 24" deep, but 6" often worked. better is better.

Desert Storm we had the D handled thingy, easier to carry, harder to use.
 

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I have several that Glock gave away at smaller events. Never used them but they seem like it would work well.
 

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I had the one in the middle in '66-'67 RVN, then in '69-'70 I had a similar one that had a pick opposite of the shovel blade. Good for hard ground, pick till you have something to scoop or scrape, repeat.

A good fighting/sleeping hole would be 24" deep, but 6" often worked. better is better.

Desert Storm we had the D handled thingy, easier to carry, harder to use.
There is (or was) a foxhole demolition charge kit. The first part is a shaped charged to make a deep narrow hole. The second part is a small bit of explosive to drop in the hole and I think you fill in the hole with loose dirt. When you set off the second charge you get a small crater for a foxhole. This might be handy for places where an E-tool can't dig squat.
 
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This is the best one I've ever owned, it lives in the vehicle. I've only carried the folding type that I was issued. When backpacking I just dig cat holes with a trekking pole.


Cold Steel.

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Does a bear s#@* in the woods? I do, then I dig a little (or big) hole depending on the morning constitutional for that day with my E-tool.
Had the same E-tool for years. Used it many times for a lot of different purposes. Great to have for any number of things.
If weight is a factor I think there are some really light weight ones made nowadays.
 

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This is the best one I've ever owned, it lives in the vehicle. I've only carried the folding type that I was issued. When backpacking I just dig cat holes with a trekking pole.


Cold Steel.

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I generally carry an Army issue folding E-tool in my truck, but I have been meaning to get one like this. Looks a lot sturdier and more useable, even if not easy to carry in a pack.
 
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I'm thinking that an e-tool would be a handy thing to have.

I've never carried one backpacking because:

I've always had some sort of shelter. On the AT I've usually stayed in a shelter, and carried a tube tent with a line. Where there aren't shelters, I've carried a regular backpacking tent.​
I've always carried fuel and a stove for cooking. And only built a small fire with "pick-up" wood, or something that I could cut with a multi-tool.​
I've never really had to dig a hole while backpacking.​
So has anyone carried one backpacking? I'd think lightness would be the most important criteria.



For regular camping, I can see where an etool could be pretty handy for cutting bigger wood and managing a fire.


How about around the house/homestead/garden? Are they useful or is it better to just use the full sized tools, like a shovel, hoe, pick, saws?


So if you do have one, what do you use it for, and what kind to you have?

Glock (of course), Gerber, SOG, MIL, other?
I don’t think I’d want the weight of one w/ an e tool. I’ve carried a plastic or metal trowel for digging if needed, and I wire saw or “commando” saw for cutting if needed. For hiking though I keep my fires to “thick kindling” or things you can break w/ your hands. Small fire easier to manage, you prob know that though
 

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This is the best one I've ever owned, it lives in the vehicle. I've only carried the folding type that I was issued. When backpacking I just dig cat holes with a trekking pole.


Cold Steel.

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Beat me to it. Hands down the Cold Steel wins - its basically a Russian Saperka that's easier to find in the US and ain't rusty like a lot of the old Soviet surplus I've seen. I keep one in each vehicle.

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PS Just did a hunt online and I see a couple small vendors have the new Ratnik version (6E5) available in the west; could be interesting for a collectible but for something I'm going to beat up I'll still take the Cold Steel version.
 

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I use one for digging a slit trench while primitive camping. Too much weight for backpacking IMO. I use a bow saw for cutting fire wood.
 
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