Yesterday, a lady I'm helping with her shooting, wanted to try the defense shooting trainer at the local gun store/indoor range. I don't know what you call these things. They are basically a life size movie where different shoot/No shoot scenarios are played. The thing is computer controlled and shows your hits, misses, speed, if the BG shot you, etc. It's live fire but at least the BG's can't actually shoot you. For LEO training whole scenarios can be played, but for us, paying by the hour, the operator started situation close to the shooting. It puts you at a little disadvantage since sometimes you don't know who the good guys are. At one point I didn't shoot a armed plain clothes guy because he didn't point the gun directly at me. It turned out he was my partner. I did pretty well. I only shot at my parter once and missed. And I shot an innocent once. I got shot a couple times. My times were fast and mostly accurate but I missed shots that I shouldn't have. The lady did great. She shot mostly using a little Ruger 21A 22LR, Bersa .380 and my Ruger SR9C 9mm. All the guns were equipped with Crimson Trace lasers. I'm not sure if the program can tell the caliber of the gun but the lady did have to shoot several BG's more than once, with good body shots, to put them down with the 22. We had fun and I'm proud of my student's shooting. Using my SR9C and laser she got through a fast scenario, dropping all seven BG's, without being hit herself. The program operator said he hadn't seen anyone do that before without the shooter being shot at least once by one of the BG's. That says a lot for the gun mounted laser, and the lady's shooting. I said it's too bad we can't set up one of these things at my range.