This new coronavirus epidemic is starting to heat up

Discussion in 'Covid-19 News/Info' started by cowboy1964, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. Haldor

    Haldor Formerly retired EE.

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    Thanks, so what is the consensus? Use it or not? I will say, it mixes pretty well with tequila.
     
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    That is a good question. Are there any drugs known or suspected to effect how Covid-19 expresses itself, good or bad? I am on lisinopril (along with a few other drugs). With my luck they will just cancel each other out.
     
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    And this is triage in the most accurate sense of the word. Death panels was about cost control. When you have multiple patients for one ventilator you have to evaluate how likely a person is to have a good outcome if you put them on a ventilator. I saw one scary statistic that over 80% of the patients who go on a ventilator end up dying. Is this true or am I just rumor mongering?

    This study claims a 49% death rate for critically ill patients. I have to assume that unless there are not enough ventilators to go around, anyone categorized as critically ill is on a ventilator.

    http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/02/study-72000-covid-19-patients-finds-23-death-rate

    I am no researcher, I don't know what weight to give these reports.

    I will say I did buy an oxygen concentrator. One reason I did, is for my BIL who is dying of cancer right now. He might find it gives him some comfort as he goes through this. The hospital told my sister don't bring him back, he is terminal and is not being re-admitted. He is getting palliative radiation treatment (for whatever good that is going to do him). His spine is full of cancer. I would be asking for hospice if I was him.

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    Found it. This study found 81% of people that required ventilators died within 28 days. This was a smaller scale study.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30079-5/fulltext
     
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    In another thread there is a story that China is suing the United states for releasing the virus.
     
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    Leftist are losing minds on twitter with their boycott hashtag. These people are nuts.

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    And reality hits.

    My wife works at a small satellite veterinary practice with three employees: her, the vet and and the receptionist.

    Receptionist called in sick last monday. Positive test for the Wuflu.

    physically the practice is ridiculously large...and they clean a lot.

    Apparently, we start getting calls from Dane County Health and Human services tomorrow.
     
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    Risks v. benefits. Welcome to the real world practice of medicine.

    Some primary in vitro research that suggests it might be bad doesn’t make it so. Anecdotal evidence in humans either way is just that. A couple of respected Heart organizations have given us their best read of what is known. That will suffice for me now. If it changes, so might my opinion too.

    I get the sense from engineers and others outside of healthcare in these threads that these are tough concepts to understand. You obviously are very intelligent, so it’s not a matter of that. It’s a matter of understanding a very different discipline. I’m a pretty smart guy but my knowledge of electrical engineering it very limited. Assuming one translates into the other is a false equivalency. Despite tremendous scientific advances and evidence based medicine, the Art of Medicine is still a very real thing.
     
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    Maybe the first step in nationalizing all the American companies there.
     
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    Strange... I had the same symptom 7-8 weeks ago.... Less fever and more fatigue. I though it was side effects of a new med i started.
     
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    Very well could be. The Chicom animals are playing the long game.
     
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    My friends daughter is security at Busch gardens, she said it is very creepy there now. I told him an empty amusement park makes a fine setting for a horror movie.
     
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    That can be good. The Discovery phase may pull out hidden data and impropriety previously not known.
     
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    I believe the WHO is wrong and is grossly underestimating the ability of this virus to travel by air. The article below discusses a study by MIT on viral droplet spread:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ing-new-study-suggests-two-metres-not-enough/

    But the new analysis by MIT has found that viral droplets expelled in coughs and sneezes can travel in a moist, warm atmosphere at speeds of 33ft to 100ft per second (ten metres to 100 metres), creating a cloud that can span approximately 23ft to 27ft (seven metres to eight metres)....
     
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    Peak Prosperity has a video that shows how much moisture is distributed into the air by just talking without a mask on. The short version is that many particles fall to the ground, but quite a few can travel about a meter. This analysis starts at the 15-minute mark.

    Also, further discussion on the MIT study on aerosolization of viral particles starts at the 11:40 mark:


    View: https://youtu.be/2w9M6K9vSUM
     
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