This new coronavirus epidemic is starting to heat up

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  1. cyberghostx13

    cyberghostx13 USMC "The Few The Proud"

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    Hmmmm....maybe much better to watch out for this guy. image.jpeg

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  3. cowboy1964

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    I am thinking that too. If this thing really becomes a global nasty pandemic markets are going to tank.
     
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    Can you summarize what it's showing?
     
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    Bodies wrapped in bedsheets laid out in hospital hallways. Infected being transferred in plastic bio tubes and boxes. Doctor collapses in triage area.
     
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    I say the story on the doctor collapsing earlier today. I'm hoping he was just exhausted.
     
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    US warned virus could ‘escape’ from lab near coronavirus epicentre

    Two years before the outbreak of the deadly coronavirus that has so far killed 25 people in China, scientists spoke of their fears about a new laboratory being built to study some of the world’s most dangerous viruses. The laboratory was built in Wuhan, the city at the heart of the outbreak of the new strain of coronavirus, that has so far infected more than 800 people. Overnight, China’s National Health Commission anounced the new death toll, including the first death outside the central province of Hubei. A fish market in Wuhan, Hubei’s sprawling capital, is believed to be where the deadly virus originated. It sits some 20 miles from the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, which housed dangerous pathogens including SARS and Ebola. In 2017, as the opening of the lab approached, scientists told the publication Nature of their worries that one of those killer viruses could ‘escape’ and go on to infect members of the public. Tim Trevan, a Maryland biosafety consultant, said he had fears China’s culture could make the institute unsafe because ‘structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important’.

    The SARS virus – which between 2002 and 2004 infected 8,098 people and killed 774 – had infact ‘escaped’ multiple times from a lab in Beijing prior to Wuhan’s lab opening, according to the Nature article. China installed the first of a planned five to seven biolabs designed for maximum safety in Wuhan in 2017, for the purpose of studying the most high-risk pathogens, like SARS. The lab, housed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was built in 2015 and ready to open in 2017. It was the first ever lab in the country designed to meet biosafetey-level-4 (BSL-4) standards – the highest biohazard level, meaning that it would be qualified to handle the most dangerous pathogens. BSL-4 labs have to be equipped with airtight hazmat suits or special ‘cabinet’ work spaces that confine viruses and bacteria that can be transmitted through the air to sealed boxes that scientists reach into using attached high-grade gloves. There are about 54 BSL-4 labs worldwide. China’s first, in Wuhan, received federal accreditation in January 2017.

    Despite the early fears over mass-contamination, experts have said there are currently no suspicions the facility had anything to do with the current outbreak, first detected in China in December. Rutgers University microbiologist Dr Richard Ebright told DailyMail.com ‘there’s no reason to harbor suspicions’ that the lab is connected to the Wuhan coronavirus‘besides being responsible for the crucial genome sequencing that lets doctors diagnose it’. According to Guizhen Wu writing in the journal Biosafety and Health, the Wuhan lab was operational ‘for global experiments on BSL-4 pathogens’ in January 2018. He added: ‘ After a laboratory leak incident of SARS in 2004, the former Ministry of Health of China initiated the construction of preservation laboratories for high-level pathogens such as SARS, coronavirus, and pandemic influenza virus.’ The scientists who spoke out in 2017 told Nature the work being carried out in Wuhan was important for the development of vaccines and treatments.

    This included conducting tests on animals, including monkeys, as regulations for animal research are much looser in China than in Western countries.



    Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/24/us-warned-virus-escape-lab-near-coronavirus-epicentre-12114591/
     
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    People collapsing in the streets being carried away by people in Hazmat suits. Run on grocery stores. Emergency rooms overwhelmed. Triage areas are being set up outside of hospitals. A very angry Doctor cussing out officials about the situation. Could it be fake? Sure. Check it out.
     
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    I’m a real cautious person. I take risks seriously.

    I think it is premature to “panic “.
    How is this worse than the numbers that would get sick or die for any of a myriad of other things.
    More Americans will likely be killed in Chicago this weekend than will succumb to this (he says hopefully).
    I think if you are at the epicenter in China it would be a different kettle of bats.
    Just my stupid uninformed opinion at wine time
     
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    And in 1918 we didn't have 747's, 777's, A-350's, world wide travel up the wazoo. And its not like we've gotten any better at treating the untreatable. More so, there are far many more humans in the Petri dish, especially in crap holes like Wuhan province where they probably dont even use toilet paper and the Chinese are stacked like cordwood.

    We just caught one here, from that dratted Wuhan and its chicken farms.
    If you let in Chinese then you are China.
     
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    Traveling domestic today. More masks on people than normal. Leaving Atlanta now.
     
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    At this point everything hinges on the accuracy of two numbers. The mortality rate and the R0 factor. The latest figures are 3% mortality rate and R0 of 3.8.

    If these figures are accurate and they remain unchanged, we are looking at 1918 all over again.

    Another number is the severity/critical rate. It’s at 21%. That’s high. This will tie up a lot of Medical personnel and respirators.
     
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    10 Chinese cities are put on lock down. They break ground for a 1,000 bed Hospital "kinda late eh"? Fisher wives are trading blows over the last cabbage? People dropping in the street? And people laugh at me for keeping MREs and water.

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    Its a lot of fun until it pokes you in the eye. The Chinese wouldn't be locking down all these cities if it had such a low mortality rate.
     
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