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Discussion in 'Religious Issues' started by Gunhaver, Jul 17, 2012.
Insulting piece of garbage.
Especially items 1 thru 5.
Great read, thanks. Like this point - Because religion teaches people to accept ignorance
You demonstrate that you are a prime example of what he is talking and he expresses it in a clear and reasoned way. Without your religion, I don't think you could be half as stupid as you seem.
Which part insulted you personally?
So it's entirely OK for you to broadcast your....opinions, but anyone who disagrees has written an "Insulting piece of garbage."?
I'd disagree. Religion attempts to explain the unknown, and is an attempt to avoid ignorance, right or wrong.
Agnosticism is the acceptance of ignorance. It's not a bad thing to admit you don't know what you don't know.
He's not talking about acceptance as in coming to terms with not knowing. He's talking about acceptance as in we have the answer in this old book so there's no need to look further.
Your job would be very different if we'd just accepted that illnesses were caused by sin or evil spirits.
Religion doesn't attempt to explain the unknown, it masks reality with fairy tales and threats of eternal damnation if you don't join the club. It was the first form of politics and control.
So it's anachronistic and ultimately destructive to it's (your) stated objectives?
And yet, look how far we've come with it including the involvement of people with markedly different belief systems.
Most people consider the other religious beliefs as fairy tales.
Nah, I just accept people make choices, and it's their right to do so.
So whats the price of tea in China?
Who is to say we wouldn't be better without ever having it, we have came far but we might have still been held back. Who knows.
Religion doesn't attempt to explain the unknown. It its eyes there are no unknowns, because it already has all of the answers. If we went off just religion we would still be living in the caves because we wouldn't try to question things or learn anything new.
Religion was a first attempt to explain the unknown, much as alchemy was a first attempt at chemistry, and astrology was a first attempt at cosmology. However we have given up on those other failed first attempts, however we still cling to religion...interesting?
I prefer coffee
And guns, don't forget the guns.
But only in spite of religion, not because of it. Only when we take a leap and step outside the previous, limited understanding do we make progress. Religion has always claimed to have all the answers and discourages people from looking beyond it. Some do anyway and are typically scorned and persecuted for their efforts. Only when the evidence becomes so insurmountable as to overwhelm incredulity does religion finally yield and incorporate a no concept.