This current health scare has taught all of us one thing about “prepping”.

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  1. teeceetx

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    I think "bugging out" is nothing more than a fantasy for 90% of the people. Where will everyone go? To some place in the woods? Best place is where one is most comfortable, where one knows the surroundings and area very well. Besides, you will be leaving all your belongings to anyone who happens along. Stay home and defend it.
     
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  2. walkinguf61

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    As a person who has a family place out there, I think the money I and my fellow New Yorkers spend out there every summer and a lot of weekends through out the year “paid “ for the local economy including property tax. I wish I could have bugged out there but medical and family reasons prevented me from doing so.
    It does remind me to get one car with PA plates in the future.
    And yes, I would love to buy firearms up there as a dual resident but since my name is not on the deed of the house, I do not qualify at this time.
    My NYC health insurance has better coverage with the doctors there in PA than it does in NYC itself. Go figure. The specialist my family needs aren’t up there.
     
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  3. DAKA

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    Living in South Florida, there is no place to "but out to", getting anywhere means travelling North on I 95 or I 75, and that would be worse than "bugging in".
     
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  4. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    Yes, you have to get out when the getting is good, or have alternate means of travel.

    That doesn’t mean it’s a fallacy, it just means you have a finite time window.
     
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  5. Rabid Rabbit

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    I never knew "prepping" required bugging out. I live where people will be bugging out to so I plan on bugging in. However I keep a generator, food and meds for a couple months etc....we're prepared for lengthy power outage, snowmagedens not pandemic but spending a couple minutes at lowes getting masks, respirators etc I'm set.
     
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  6. mhambi

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    Sheltering in place is great. Until you can't.


    Best have plans for both eventualities.

    Example 1: Current situation. SIP is working great for me. Found a few areas where I was lacking.

    Example 2: Wood Hollow Fire 2012 Sheriff shows up at door and says you have 30 minutes to leave. Fire will be arriving within the hour. Luckily it didn't hit our place but it's kind of hard to load up 2 years worth of goods and supplies in an evacuation setting. Something smaller, lighter or more mobile would be a good idea.

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    Putting these two events together has really exposed where MY prep weaknesses are. Both have been very valuable lessons.

    :wavey:
     
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  7. BBMW

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    If I owned the property, and had it pre-prepped, I might think differently. But It's not and I haven't. It's an empty house (no furniture, no supplies.) So I'd be starting from scratch in the middle of the crisis. That would put me out shopping, trying to find stuff in short supply, and interacting with other people. And with the long incubation period of this disease, I could easily go out there with it not knowing and then need medical care out there.

    As I said, the area of NYC where I am is one of the least effected areas. And while the rest of the country (with certain exceptions) has not been nearly as hard hit by CV-19 yet, that may be coming down the line.

     
  8. Gonzoso

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    I bugged out to my basement office during the day. The thing about prepping is preparing to avoid things by thoughtfully choosing a place to live away from most dangers or unpleasantness.

    I moved out of Monroe County PA(PA's biggest hotspot for covid per capita) 5 years ago and live in a rural place free of earthquakes, high enough to avoid any flooding, lots of local farms so we're pretty food secure, too far inland for hurricanes to do too much usually, too hilly for tornadoes mostly. Monroe County's got 360 infected per 100,000. My county has 78 per 100,000 infected.

    I'm hoping to ride this thing out until I can get vaccine.
     
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  9. nikerret

    nikerret Mr. Awesome

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    Most of these have diesel, but many people also have gasoline.
     

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  10. Otto Pistol

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    The measles mortality rate is 0.2 %, at least apparently in the US.
     
  11. AK_Stick

    AK_Stick AAAMAD

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    Yes, post vaccine, and in fairly small numbers it’s much less of a risk than it was.

    Numbers came from here
    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/meas.html
     
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  12. jame

    jame I don't even know....what I'm doing here....

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    I’ve got one of those not 75 yards from my front step. I can see it right from my chair as I type this. During extreme times, one best not get caught fooling around with that tank.

    And you’ve just provided a great example on why bugging out to the wrong place could be a bad idea.
     
  13. Westexas

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    My wife and I have been prepped for this for years. Thanks to my job, I knew this was coming.

    We have enough food for 5 months, weapons, ammunition, water purifier, portable solar generator, two Pedelecs and a trailer for backup transportation, fishing gear, and a garden. Some years back I built a rain collection system with a 225 gallon tank. We have another water supply about 3 miles away. Our plan is shelter in place unless circumstances change. Then we bug out to a secondary shelter.

    Secondary location has even more food and a sizable water supply.
     
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  14. rock_castle

    rock_castle All Lives Matter

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    The importance of being with like-minded people, whether bugging in or bugging out, can't be overstated. There is strength, safety, and security in numbers. It's a cool fantasy to be secluded with just the ones you love, but it's just not practical longer term.
     
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  15. Westexas

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    Unfortunately that’s not their only problem. Their pig and chicken farms are enormous.

    All of China is essentially a giant viral engine. Too many people in close contact with too many farm animals. Add unsanitary conditions and you have a breeding ground for diseases of all types.

    This will not be the last outbreak to come out of China.
    This is a warning; the world sure as hell better get ready for the next one.
     
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  16. Westexas

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    Especially if those loved ones have zero survival skills. At that point they have to be taught, and quickly.
     
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  17. Westexas

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    The mortality rate is not high enough for this to be any more than a disruptor.

    Given enough time, I’m reasonably certain China will have something worse emerge.
     
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  18. Ross-in-Pa

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    Most people that would need this already know, but for those that don't, home heating oil is #2 diesel with a red dye added. The dye shows that it was not taxed for on road use. Heating oil and off road diesel are the same product.

    In cold weather, you will need to add anti-gel to run it in a diesel engine.
     
  19. DAKA

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    Time to BOYCOTT CHINESE MADE STUFF (as much as possible, and 2nd bring back manufacturing)
     
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  20. Pluto57

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    It's only a problem if, in fact, you don't have a place to bug out to. Many preppers do have such a place. The secret to being successful in bugging out is that you have to be on top of things and not wait too long to go. If you're a prepper and wait so long to bug out that the National Guard has already been called out, you've waited way too long.
     
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